I only like one of their songs... and it's "Sunday Morning Call".

Definitely Maybe has a few great tunes, like "Rock n Roll Star" and "Live Forever", but overall, I'd say that What's the Story Morning Glory was better overall. Regardless, I haven't listened to either of these albums in years. OCEAN PALACE said:

i agree with you there,,, dont like standing on shoulder of giants either, more than anything its very boring.... some on their early b sides i think are actually better than the album stuff,, "listen up" one of my favourites,,, definitly maybe is still the best they done i reckon

No matter how sad my music is, I have a policy of not chucking out anything. It brings me face to face with the turd that I use to be. And that turd use to like Oasis a lot. They have some pretty sound music but Standing on the Shoulders of Giants is in my collection and must be down there with the worst of my records. Alex said:

I've gotten rid of a lot of the crap I used to listen to growing up (trust me, it's some pretty embarassing crap that I wonder how I ever liked), but Oasis is one of those bands I could never bring myself to get rid of their albums. OCEAN PALACE said it right... definitely a 60's British invasion vibe. Maybe that's why it's catchy. Obviously some of the stuff isn't the best, but it's pretty decent music. Saw them live in 2005 and they closed with a nice cover of "My Generation", so they definitely know their stuff. And of course, you've gotta love the Brothers Gallagher and their antics. That's what makes for a great band!

I've gotten rid of a lot of the crap I used to listen to growing up (trust me, it's some pretty embarassing crap that I wonder how I ever liked), but Oasis is one of those bands I could never bring myself to get rid of their albums. OCEAN PALACE said it right... definitely a 60's British invasion vibe. Maybe that's why it's catchy. Obviously some of the stuff isn't the best, but it's pretty decent music. Saw them live in 2005 and they closed with a nice cover of "My Generation", so they definitely know their stuff. And of course, you've gotta love the Brothers Gallagher and their antics. That's what makes for a great band!

I bought a bog box of cassette tapes at a yard sale about 8 years ago, one of theirs was in there, I found it interesting enough to play a few times in the car, but that was as far as my interest in them went.

Don't know them,anyway Beasteaks is a pretty funny name... Mike Humsgreen said:

It's not so much about the grammar but how you pull it off. If the band sings like they know how to use English then it works. But some bands don't have a clue and the lyrics ruin an otherwise decent tune. I find that a lot in Germany. The Torpedo Monkeys seem to pull it off but the Beatsteaks don't.

It's not so much about the grammar but how you pull it off. If the band sings like they know how to use English then it works. But some bands don't have a clue and the lyrics ruin an otherwise decent tune. I find that a lot in Germany. The Torpedo Monkeys seem to pull it off but the Beatsteaks don't.

O thanks man.Cool. FREDDI said:

Example: Cream At the royal Albert hall (page 182):




Black Fender Strat with noiseless pickups and a maple neck (another black Strat with Lace Sensor pickups).

Jim Dunlop strap locks.

Fender '57 tweed Twin amp, in a stack, with a spare on top (only used on “Sunshine Of Your Love”) and a Leslie speaker.

The Leslie had a separate preamp, used to balance out tone and volumes with the amp when used together.

He also had a Dunlop wah-wah pedal in line.

His wireless system was the Samson Synth 6 system, with packs powered by 2 AA batteries. This ran to the input of his foot-switching unit through a Zaola cable from the cannon out on the Samson.

His guitar straps were by Ernie Ball, as were his picks and his strings (''Slinkys'' 10 13 17 26 36 46 gauges).

Guitar stands by Tama.

This information was graciously provided by Eric's guitar technician Lee Dickson.


http://www.cream2005.com/thereunion.lasso

Example: Cream At the royal Albert hall (page 182): Black Fender Strat with noiseless pickups and a maple neck (another black Strat with Lace Sensor pickups). Jim Dunlop strap locks. Fender '57 tweed Twin amp, in a stack, with a spare on top (only used on “Sunshine Of Your Love”) and a Leslie speaker. The Leslie had a separate preamp, used to balance out tone and volumes with the amp when used together. He also had a Dunlop wah-wah pedal in line. His wireless system was the Samson Synth 6 system, with packs powered by 2 AA batteries. This ran to the input of his foot-switching unit through a Zaola cable from the cannon out on the Samson. His guitar straps were by Ernie Ball, as were his picks and his strings (''Slinkys'' 10 13 17 26 36 46 gauges). Guitar stands by Tama. This information was graciously provided by Eric's guitar technician Lee Dickson. http://www.cream2005.com/thereunion.lasso

The site is french-spoken...anyway,the link connect you to the first page. If you scroll it, you will see a long list of artists,lots of ones you mentioned. Beside each one you will see one or more numbers;this is the page's number. So you take the one you're interested in and fill it in the window search (high on the right). It will connect on the forum's page where the topic is about. Cheers- Giannis KRI said:

Thanls man.But i don't understand anything from this site.I don't speak italian.Anyway thanks for the try.

FREDDI said:

Settings about amps?
I think you only can trust your ears..well, any amp or guit has its own
peculiar sounds but take a look of wich models they used if you want to get closer.
And what you hear from the record is a studio result not easy to reproduce in live.
The band you mentioned don't have just one sound
(Stooges change at every album,Clash had one for every song)

Here is a link to an interesting site about gears:
http://www.guitariste.com/forums/pedales-effets-homestudio,le-mater...

Thanls man.But i don't understand anything from this site.I don't speak italian.Anyway thanks for the try. FREDDI said:

Settings about amps?
I think you only can trust your ears..well, any amp or guit has its own
peculiar sounds but take a look of wich models they used if you want to get closer.
And what you hear from the record is a studio result not easy to reproduce in live.
The band you mentioned don't have just one sound
(Stooges change at every album,Clash had one for every song)

Here is a link to an interesting site about gears:
http://www.guitariste.com/forums/pedales-effets-homestudio,le-mater...

Settings about amps? I think you only can trust your ears..well, any amp or guit has its own peculiar sounds but take a look of wich models they used if you want to get closer. And what you hear from the record is a studio result not easy to reproduce in live. The band you mentioned don't have just one sound (Stooges change at every album,Clash had one for every song) Here is a link to an interesting site about gears: http://www.guitariste.com/forums/pedales-effets-homestudio,le-materiel-des-guitaristes-pro-s-sommaire-en-page-1,76579.html

Lucky basterd. Megg said:

ohhhh YEAAAH!... BRILLIANT!... The 'League' have had a recent "revival" at my place

ohhhh YEAAAH!... BRILLIANT!... The 'League' have had a recent "revival" at my place

I have favourite songs, not albums but here's some I'm never tired of listening to
Chelsea
Eater - The Album
999
Dead Boys- Young, loud and snotty
The Nipple Erectors - King of the Bop

RAMONES, duh.

Ryan Katastrophe said:Let's face it, the world ain't round, it's square That sums it up perfectly Ryan!!!!!

I don't intentionally try to hip the unconverted anymore, although I'm sure I do subconsciously. I schill my podcast on Facebook and Twitter where probably less than a third of the people I'm friends with give a shit. I DJ at a bar every now and again where, I'd imagine, very few of the patrons listen to this music regularly. The folks who work at the bar seem to enjoy it though and I do get a few compliments each time I spin. I think you just have to have it in you to dig this kind of stuff. Let's face it, the world ain't round, it's square.

I'm even back to putting shows on around town, but these days it's really tough to get people off the computer/tv to come out and see some live bands. But the ones that do come out usually have a really great time...some even come up to thank me for bringing these bands to town! I pretty much stopped booking shows after I booked and organized a festival here in St. Louis called the Show-Me Blowout (yes, named after Deke Dickerson's old fanzine about Missouri rock'n'roll) that sorta flopped. It featured the best garage-style bands from St. Louis, Columbia, Kansas City, Springfield & Joplin. The headliners I wanted to get couldn't play (or wouldn't play for any reasonable price... the Untamed Youth and the Royal Nonesuch). So I booked a couple local favorites to headline who had gained some fans and exposure outside of St. Louis (and who each hadn't played in several years), the Honkeys (surf) and the Cripplers (garage-punk). The Honkeys canceled because the guitarist was in another band and they got offered some sweet deal to play a show elsewhere so he had to do that instead. So to replace the Honkeys I put the Geargrinders on to headline the first night. They were just a local garage band (similar to the Stooges in sound) who were pretty popular in STL in the late '90s. I guess the Cripplers and the Geargrinders (not to mention the other bands on the bills, including Thee Fine Lines, the Rich Boys, Monte Carlos, Modern Primitives, the Nevermores & Pink Socks), weren't well known enough to have good pull, and we barely had 100 people show up each night. That was in October 2007 and I put a lot of time and money into it and ended up LOSING a lot of money. Less than a third of the T-shirts I made for the event sold, and with the lousy turnout I had to pay the bands miserably. Those who did come, of course, loved it. But I was pretty much done at that point. I also have a record label here (TIRC Records), and still release stuff once in a while whenever a band wants or needs my assistance. I haven't given that up. The last show I booked with that was a record-release show for the Nevermores that was also billed as a TIRC Records Showcase, since the other two bands on the bill also released stuff on my label (the 75s & Left Arm). That was over a year ago and I haven't booked anything since, and again, I rarely even go out to see bands unless it's something I just can't miss. But I'm committed to keeping this site up and alive, and trying to promote it and bring in more new members. I hope to get back to podcasting at some point. The office where I used to record my show is in shambles, and I'm in the middle of cleaning and reorganizing everything down there before I can even begin to think about putting together another show. But when I do, it'll be good, and I'll post it here on the Hideout like the others. New name, probably, and more straight forward, and probably more varied musically, but it'll be good, I promise.

BR>
When I did my local radio show I used to think of it as "my mission" to bring these wild sounds to the airwaves in St. Louis. I used to get a huge kick out of the fact that I was playing some crazy rock'n'roll on the radio, and would wonder what sort of reactions it got out of people just flipping around on the dial in their cars... but that was 10 years or 15 years ago. I don't really give a shit anymore. My mission is done. That's not to say I might not ever do another radio show (or podcast) again, just that the point of doing it has changed. I no longer think what I play will influence a damned soul, nor do I care if it doesn't. I think this is just part of growing older, wiser, and jaded. Hey Kopper: I'm about 10 years older than you and i went through the same thing a number of years ago...rarely go out, gave up trying to turn people on to this music, stopped doing and writing fazines etc, was WAY busier with other stuff like raising kids, night school courses, renovating our house etc...But still listened to the music at home. Then out of the blue, a gentleman from Greece (George Rigas) approached us about re-releasing some of the garagier songs we released with cassettes that came with our zine (What Wave) back in the 80's and early 90's. We (my wife Rena and i) didn't think much would come of it, but Action Records released an LP with a bunch of these songs and we started to re-connect with many of our old pals from around the world. Myspace, email and sites like garagpunk hideout certainly helped with the reconnect. Once the LP was out i took it to our local university radio station to see if we could get some airplay to maybe sell a few copies locally. The program director loved the record, got me onair almost immediately and had me yacking about the old days and spinning some records. I went to leave and the Manager (Karlos, who has since passed away) grabbed me and said (paraphrasing cause i was in shock) 'man, the enthusiasm just pours out of you, we gotta get you on air'. It's had been well over 10 years since we'd done any radio (What Wave Radio, 1989 to 92? and it was a pre-recorded cassette that would get played at 1AM every 2nd or 4th monday, so tons of listeners...LOL). After almost a year, Radio What Wave finally got a regular spot (5.5 years in the same spot now) and still spinning the rock'n'roll that i dig. Because this is college radio, there's constant turnaround and sometimes i have to train some of the potential DJ's. Reaction to the music has been everything from the total shock of 'what kind of music is this???' to 'wow, this is really cool, i've never heard anything like this'....remember, most of these kids listen to rap, hip hop, metal, folky, whatever else is in the mainstream. Nowadays our kids are older (back when they were younger, you had to plan WAY ahead to go out....baby sitter etc) i tend to go to quite a few shows and once in awhile some kid i've never seen before will come up to me and tell me that he really likes the show...i was totally shocked the first time it happened! Now some of the kids know who i am and will ask about certain records, bands or venues that are long gone. It's a really cool feeling to help these kids and some of them are telling me about new bands that they think i will dig, and usually they are Right! I'm even back to putting shows on around town, but these days it's really tough to get people off the computer/tv to come out and see some live bands. But the ones that do come out usually have a really great time...some even come up to thank me for bringing these bands to town! The interesting thing is that some of the people we used to go to see shows with in the 70's/80's/early 90's are now going out to see shows as well. They are in our age bracket, kids are older, and now have a bit of spare time and still want a shot of rock'n'roll to make them feel young again...the trick is it only makes you feel young during the show, then you're back to being old the next morn...LOL...And being the oldest (or one of...) doesn't bother me, i'm just there to see a band and have some fun! So Kopper, it may just be another chapter you're going through in your life and you may get all of your enthusiasm and even more back someday...spinning tunes on the radio or via podcast could influence a whole bunch of kids...

I think this about the same place that I am at when it comes to spreading the word. I know myspace is old hat but that's just about it as an outlet goes. I can hip people to a new podcast or internet show in a bulletin but it's not going to be to anybody who is stuck in a classic rock trip or anything. That ended when I was 30. kopper said:

This is kinda funny, but I think I'm just getting too old for these "hop in the car with your buddies" occurrences. Shit, that sounds like stuff I did when I was 24, not 44. So it's really hard for me to put myself into the context of the topic. It's not that I don't hang out with friends anymore or anything, but we're not usually hopping in the car to go out hell-raisin' or anything. Those wild & crazy nights pretty much ended abruptly when we had our first kid. These days it's usually seeing each other at shows or inviting people over for barbecues and such... and honestly, I rarely even go out to see live bands anymore (I think I've been out to just two shows in the past six months). And the friends I have been able to hang onto or still communicate with on any sort of regular basis (let's face it, the older you get, the fewer "new" friends you make), who haven't moved away or completely dropped off the face of the earth (gotten married and moved to the suburbs or Seattle, Portland, Denver, or other places far away from me), well, they already know what I like. They've known for years. They're not going to come over for a barbecue, hear me blasting NOBUNNY or the HEX DISPENSERS and go "woah man, what the fuck is that? That doesn't sound like the Eagles!" And the ones who I'm still friends with—the ones who aren't inclined to listen to obscure rock'n'roll, punk, or whatnot—either accepted the fact that I listen to some pretty weird (in their minds) shit, or they like even weirder shit than I do. In any event, they're all open-minded about music, and I wouldn't be friends with them otherwise. I'd have to think back 15 years or more to think of any "friends" I had who made a big deal over the music I listened to... and those people are just not my friends anymore (or never really were to begin with), go figure.

When I did my local radio show I used to think of it as "my mission" to bring these wild sounds to the airwaves in St. Louis. I used to get a huge kick out of the fact that I was playing some crazy rock'n'roll on the radio, and would wonder what sort of reactions it got out of people just flipping around on the dial in their cars... but that was 10 years or 15 years ago. I don't really give a shit anymore. My mission is done. That's not to say I might not ever do another radio show (or podcast) again, just that the point of doing it has changed. I no longer think what I play will influence a damned soul, nor do I care if it doesn't. I think this is just part of growing older, wiser, and jaded.

This is kinda funny, but I think I'm just getting too old for these "hop in the car with your buddies" occurrences. Shit, that sounds like stuff I did when I was 24, not 44. So it's really hard for me to put myself into the context of the topic. It's not that I don't hang out with friends anymore or anything, but we're not usually hopping in the car to go out hell-raisin' or anything. Those wild & crazy nights pretty much ended abruptly when we had our first kid. These days it's usually seeing each other at shows or inviting people over for barbecues and such... and honestly, I rarely even go out to see live bands anymore (I think I've been out to just two shows in the past six months). And the friends I have been able to hang onto or still communicate with on any sort of regular basis (let's face it, the older you get, the fewer "new" friends you make), who haven't moved away or completely dropped off the face of the earth (gotten married and moved to the suburbs or Seattle, Portland, Denver, or other places far away from me), well, they already know what I like. They've known for years. They're not going to come over for a barbecue, hear me blasting NOBUNNY or the HEX DISPENSERS and go "woah man, what the fuck is that? That doesn't sound like the Eagles!" And the ones who I'm still friends with—the ones who aren't inclined to listen to obscure rock'n'roll, punk, or whatnot—either accepted the fact that I listen to some pretty weird (in their minds) shit, or they like even weirder shit than I do. In any event, they're all open-minded about music, and I wouldn't be friends with them otherwise. I'd have to think back 15 years or more to think of any "friends" I had who made a big deal over the music I listened to... and those people are just not my friends anymore (or never really were to begin with), go figure. When I did my local radio show I used to think of it as "my mission" to bring these wild sounds to the airwaves in St. Louis. I used to get a huge kick out of the fact that I was playing some crazy rock'n'roll on the radio, and would wonder what sort of reactions it got out of people just flipping around on the dial in their cars... but that was 10 years or 15 years ago. I don't really give a shit anymore. My mission is done. That's not to say I might not ever do another radio show (or podcast) again, just that the point of doing it has changed. I no longer think what I play will influence a damned soul, nor do I care if it doesn't. I think this is just part of growing older, wiser, and jaded.

That was some years ago. It wasn't exactly a cover band, it was three original members of MC5, doing the old classics with Evan Dando and Mark Arm (of Mudhoney) as singers. I don't know what that fight was all about, or what happened. I've seen Dando play Kick Out The Jams solo, with an acoustic guitar. At the end, he usually sings, "I didn't quite kick 'em out." Cracked me up the first time I heard it. whatwave dave said:

Dando got punched out in Toronto by some serious/psycho MC5 fan...think dando was in some kind of MC5 cover or something band at the time and the fan objected to something dando did. I'm sure someone else here can elaborate on the MC5 cover thing.

And that's my sum total knowledge of the Lemonheads...and my 2 cents LOL....

Dando got punched out in Toronto by some serious/psycho MC5 fan...think dando was in some kind of MC5 cover or something band at the time and the fan objected to something dando did. I'm sure someone else here can elaborate on the MC5 cover thing.

And that's my sum total knowledge of the Lemonheads...and my 2 cents LOL....

Anyone else like them? They're one of my favorite bands ever. Just something about the Dando style that speaks to me.