You can cop a very close Cream guitar tone or the "woman tone" as the corksniffers call it by using a fuzz face while on your neck pickup with the tone control on the guitar wound a fair way back. Giannis KRI said:

With cream he used the sg painted by the fool.He used also the es some times.He said that he only used his wah and no more effects.Just guitar-wah-amp.I dont know if it's true,that's what he said.We are covering it with my band and i am trying to achieve the sound but i haven't yet.If i will i'll tell you,and if you will, tell me.

Gonzo said:

I think Clapton played an ES335, strat & probably a les paul in the cream era. Also played marshall stacks...possibly blues breakers aswell. He would of used your average fuzzes like Fuzz Faces, Tone Benders aswell as Vox Wahs etc. I'd like to know how that fuzz was acheived on Wanna Be Dog by The Stooges. One of the best fuzz tones I've heard.

Yeah,the Nice Boys. brad0022 said:

Oh yea definitely remember these guys. I still have the Guitar Romantic cd. Didnt the survivors start another band? Thought I read something about that a few years ago.

I'm not familiar with that song or that group, but some google searching shows the song from 1979 and it sounded good. But not too much info on the Lemonheads version but I'll take your word on it. High Lord Mardy Pune said:

Sorry, I'm going to correct you: The only good thing the Lemonheads ever did was cover Proud Scum's song Rabbit.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I use to like that "Hate your Friends" LP from 1988 but that was about the only good thing the Lemonheads ever did.
ixnayray said:

I was willing to let the OASIS thing slide [as I hate to be rude]... but The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? That's some bullsheeeiit!!!

Limp Bizkit are gods though... Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'... scoo-baddy doo bop, YEEAH!

Whatever happened to Fred Durst? I miss that kooky little ape!

kopper said:

Hell, look at the discussion threads on this forum lately... Oasis? The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? C'mon, can't we do better than that? This is GaragePunk.com... not AltRock.com.

Ryan Katastrophe said:

I don't intentionally try to hip the unconverted anymore, although I'm sure I do subconsciously. I schill my podcast on Facebook and Twitter where probably less than a third of the people I'm friends with give a shit. I DJ at a bar every now and again where, I'd imagine, very few of the patrons listen to this music regularly. The folks who work at the bar seem to enjoy it though and I do get a few compliments each time I spin. I think you just have to have it in you to dig this kind of stuff. Let's face it, the world ain't round, it's square.

Sorry, I'm going to correct you: The only good thing the Lemonheads ever did was cover Proud Scum's song Rabbit. Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I use to like that "Hate your Friends" LP from 1988 but that was about the only good thing the Lemonheads ever did.
ixnayray said:

I was willing to let the OASIS thing slide [as I hate to be rude]... but The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? That's some bullsheeeiit!!!

Limp Bizkit are gods though... Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'... scoo-baddy doo bop, YEEAH!

Whatever happened to Fred Durst? I miss that kooky little ape!

kopper said:

Hell, look at the discussion threads on this forum lately... Oasis? The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? C'mon, can't we do better than that? This is GaragePunk.com... not AltRock.com.

Ryan Katastrophe said:

I don't intentionally try to hip the unconverted anymore, although I'm sure I do subconsciously. I schill my podcast on Facebook and Twitter where probably less than a third of the people I'm friends with give a shit. I DJ at a bar every now and again where, I'd imagine, very few of the patrons listen to this music regularly. The folks who work at the bar seem to enjoy it though and I do get a few compliments each time I spin. I think you just have to have it in you to dig this kind of stuff. Let's face it, the world ain't round, it's square.

Ha ha...that was pretty good ...CSI. S.Law said:

"uh this one got that CSI song onnit?"



Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Y'sure about that? What if the person is an idiot and buying it for Pinball Wizard

haha...bet fred durst bought meaty beaty too!

so....who's up for talking about this week's American Idol?

"uh this one got that CSI song onnit?" Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Y'sure about that? What if the person is an idiot and buying it for Pinball Wizard

I use to like that "Hate your Friends" LP from 1988 but that was about the only good thing the Lemonheads ever did. ixnayray said:

I was willing to let the OASIS thing slide [as I hate to be rude]... but The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? That's some bullsheeeiit!!!

Limp Bizkit are gods though... Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'... scoo-baddy doo bop, YEEAH!

Whatever happened to Fred Durst? I miss that kooky little ape!

kopper said:

Hell, look at the discussion threads on this forum lately... Oasis? The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? C'mon, can't we do better than that? This is GaragePunk.com... not AltRock.com.

Ryan Katastrophe said:

I don't intentionally try to hip the unconverted anymore, although I'm sure I do subconsciously. I schill my podcast on Facebook and Twitter where probably less than a third of the people I'm friends with give a shit. I DJ at a bar every now and again where, I'd imagine, very few of the patrons listen to this music regularly. The folks who work at the bar seem to enjoy it though and I do get a few compliments each time I spin. I think you just have to have it in you to dig this kind of stuff. Let's face it, the world ain't round, it's square.

Y'sure about that? What if the person is an idiot and buying it for Pinball Wizard (before deciding if they want to buy Tommy) and the Seeker (because they don't know where else to get that song. Ken (Evil Empire Records) said:

Its a fine line between suggesting and preaching. Nobody likes to be preached to unless they are already in the fold to some degree.

Back when I owned an actual brick and mortar type record store I did more than my fair share spreading the word. It was the right venue for it... Its not hard to get a guy buying a copy of Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy to go for a Fleshtones or Chesterfield Kings record. Pretty much that guidance is what they're there for.

Opportunities like that are fewer and farther between nowadays. I mostly wait until someone asks my opinion.

I was willing to let the OASIS thing slide [as I hate to be rude]... but The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? That's some bullsheeeiit!!! Limp Bizkit are gods though... Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'... scoo-baddy doo bop, YEEAH! Whatever happened to Fred Durst? I miss that kooky little ape! kopper said:

Hell, look at the discussion threads on this forum lately... Oasis? The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? C'mon, can't we do better than that? This is GaragePunk.com... not AltRock.com.

Ryan Katastrophe said:

I don't intentionally try to hip the unconverted anymore, although I'm sure I do subconsciously. I schill my podcast on Facebook and Twitter where probably less than a third of the people I'm friends with give a shit. I DJ at a bar every now and again where, I'd imagine, very few of the patrons listen to this music regularly. The folks who work at the bar seem to enjoy it though and I do get a few compliments each time I spin. I think you just have to have it in you to dig this kind of stuff. Let's face it, the world ain't round, it's square.

Wow Doc, the Cliff Richard comment is pretty harsh. ouch! That's one you save for your worst enemy or when your going toe to toe at the crossroads with satan himself!

But yeah they never really floated my boat either, but I did hear them after I had been listening to Link Wray for a while so they did sound a little watered down so to speak.

I can see where you're coming from with Cliff Richard but it's better than that. I bought the LP on some boot repro label for the song Tube City and was a little disappointed at first (I was expecting some kind of Wailers - Kingsmen kind of action) but it grew on me. Their instros are great and Steve Wahr(?) is a fabulous singer when you get past Surfin' Bird. By the way, Move It (the Cliff Richard tune) is a great song.

Trashmen rule...

of course there is always MENSTER PHIP AND THE PHIPSTERS .....

You're trying to look at a band from 1963 through 2010 eyes. "More wild and weird and strange" than the Trashmen in 1963? They didn't come much "more wild and weird and strange" than those cats, especially with a Top 10 hit! And while I agree that the Readymen were also great, once you get passed "Shortin' Bread," they really didn't have that many great songs. The Trashmen, on the other hand, had dozens. That 4-CD box set on Sundazed is worth having, although it's missing their classic "Kuk." Plus, they influenced everyone from the Cramps to the Untamed Youth. In fact, I got turned onto them after I first heard the Cramps in the early '80s (I figured I'd better hunt 'em down since both them and the Ramones covered "Surfin' Bird"), and they were one of my first real favorite '60s bands and helped open the door for me to find and appreciate a helluva lot more '60s sounds, including the Wailers, the Pyramids, the Astronauts, Link Wray, etc. etc. etc. I'd hate to think what music would be like without the Trashmen being around in the early '60s. Cyco Sanchez said:

Yeah, I know, but still there was something missing... Maybe I listened to some compilation? Like with the Ventures: Their earlier stuff is just plain great, but the later recordings, well, they ARE cheesy.
And this Thrashmen record - a few tracks were killers indeed, but some songs also reminded me of, say, Cliff Richard. I expected something more wild and weird and strange. But maybe the Trashmen are just more fun, and I was expecting something wrong? Any recommendations for beginners?

Or if you wanna hear what a 1960's Minneapolis contemporary sounded like, check out the Ready Men. TeenFink said:

Woah, I couldn't DISAGREE more. You must be out of your mind. The Trashmen are one of the best ever!!

"Cheesy" my ass. It's fun '60s surf & hot rod, man. Insanity from Minneapolis in the early '60s.

Not as surfy but you should check out the fabulous wailers. They are the fuckin best

Cyco Sanchez said:

Yeah, I know, but still there was something missing... Maybe I listened to some compilation? Like with the Ventures: Their earlier stuff is just plain great, but the later recordings, well, they ARE cheesy. And this Thrashmen record - a few tracks were killers indeed, but some songs also reminded me of, say, Cliff Richard. I expected something more wild and weird and strange. But maybe the Trashmen are just more fun, and I was expecting something wrong? Any recommendations for beginners?

Yeah, I know, but still there was something missing... Maybe I listened to some compilation? Like with the Ventures: Their earlier stuff is just plain great, but the later recordings, well, they ARE cheesy.

And this Thrashmen record - a few tracks were killers indeed, but some songs also reminded me of, say, Cliff Richard. I expected something more wild and weird and strange. But maybe the Trashmen are just more fun, and I was expecting something wrong?

Any recommendations for beginners?

I sometimes have trouble remembering which country some bands are from (other than the US, UK, Japan, and Sweden and some Norwegian groups) but I like hearing groups sing in English when it's rock and roll music, even if it would make someone cringe. I find something charming about it.

I'm starting to think that Kopper's default pic is a look of disgust.

I love Gerry Roslie's screams (of course), but there's a scream on the Wailers song "Hold" (from OUTBURST) provided by the drummer (he sings lead on that song) that just sends chills up my spine.

I figure no one really is a Beatles fan but there were some pretty good screams on some of those early songs.

Great topic!

I really like the screams that Dave Fish from the beguiled used to let out. There's the slight hint of the deranged killer in there... nice.

and like others have mentioned Gerry Roslie has got to have one of the best set of lungs in the business! Man he lets rip!

chuck eddy's right: that's not Iggy-it's the Devil....

Yeah, the first two that came to my mind were Gerry Roslie and Iggy Pop. That scream at the beginning of "TV Eye" will stick with you for days.

definately Roslie, and his inbred family THE WAILERS("Hang Up") and the SWAMP RATS.

Iggy at the beginning of "TV Eye"

WHITEHOUSE-"Princess Disease"

Count Brockula on the SHOUT BAMALAMA podcasts. ;)

In the spirit of bring this board back to some real, proper garagepunk topics, let's talk screams.  You know, "Yeah!", "Woo!", "Hey!", "Ow!"... who's got the best mid-song, mic-distorting, wildest, craziest, rawest scream in rock 'n' roll?  Little Richard may have been one of the originals, but I think that no one can HOWL like Jerry Roslie from the Sonics.  Who do you say?

all those great Les Baxter space albums!

Helios Creed + CHROME- space acid brain wreckage. Helios even played guitar in sort of a ragtag HAWKWIND reunion in the 90's.