Wow the inherent cockiness! Where you on the original garagepunk thread BTW? Actually, I lived in St. Louis, MO and I'm well acqainted with the originator of this "hotdog stand", Kopper, whom I saw at all the shows (chiefly because he put a lot of them on as well as had an excellent radio show called The Wayback Machine) and to say the bands used non-60s oriented musical patterns (when I saw plenty Farfisas, Hammond B3s, Gretches, and vintage amps), ETC!!! or to say they couldn't play is quite the grandiose brushstroke there. I saw ALL those bands, ie. Cynics, Fleshtones, Woggles, Gories, Man or Astroman, The Mummies, The A-Bones, Teengenerate, etc., that it's no feather in my cap just a life lived and time/place happened. My specific comment being if you read carefullly was "I don't pine for the "good ole days" or try to relive (like some still do), just appreciate a place in time and would love to see it." ....."It" being reissueing the original garagepunk.com thread to see a relic of the past that, sorry pal, I was indeed a part of. Where you?? Because the retro-Garage of the 90s actually began in 80s, note when Get Hip! Records actually started was 1986, Sympathy for the Record Industry in 1988, Estrus Records started in 1990.... both Goner Records and Crypt Records started in 1983. Actually, those record labels are from places on the East and West Coast mainly, so they were way ahead of us midwesterners. If you view an era as a "designer trend" then perhaps it wasn't real to you. Did you ever go to Cavestomp or any of the weekenders?, was that something "trendy" to do? or did you genuinely like the music at the time?