Cheesy usually means this:clearly of cheap quality or in bad style like cheesy hotel music or cheesy advertisements
or describes anything which is not sincere "She gave a cheesy grin to the cameras".
You're right in that the Tenth Anniversary album of the Ventures is cheesy. It's really bad. I know they'd play a few hits of the day even on their early albums, but that album in 1970 was just bad hits of the day of THAT day.
As for The Trashmen and Surfin' Bird, first of all, it's not typical of them. They knew it was a gimick but it got the crowd moving even before they recorded it, which is why they chose it as their debut. Most people in later years consider THAT song cheesy and wonder why they couldn't be more like the rest of their album. It's only after groups like the Cramps and Ramones recorded it and early oldies radio that it would be seen for the genius that it is.
Second, you should like the Trashmen cuz it's still rock and roll and it's played real well, AND the songs are good. It's a great collection of tunes which I can't say for a lot of albums from between 1962 - 1964.
Doc Sanchez said:
Hi S.Law,
well, ok, I guess I don't know The Trashmen enough, but the late Ventures ARE cheesy (whatever that expression means...), at least this 10th anniversary album, on which they play all the greatest hits of back then, with a sound that's not cool or wild or stingy at all. But I really LOVE the early Ventures that are nothing of what I said about this album.
But apart from that I agree with you about internet discussions. Maybe I should've put it another way from the beginning on and ask, why is it that I thought I really should like The Trashmen, and when I heard this album I was disappointed that it sounded so much different from what I expected from only knowing Surfin Bird, because I expected something more hard and wild and not so much this sunny fun thing (and I don't mean modern sound here, because I prefer this vintage sound to anything indie or rock nowadays).
So, would you say that Surfin Bird is a rather atypical song for the Trashmen?
And, by the way: What does "cheesy" really mean...?