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    • October 14, 2011 7:00 PM CDT
    • Playlist for Oct 13/2011

      This is part 1 of our special on The Fryfogle Years (has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?). Bands that played at Fryfogles Tavern here in London approx 30 years ago to help celebrate CHRW's 30th birthday this month. A TON of cool bands played Fry's (as we used to call it) and this is just a small sampling.

      1. The Ramones...I Just Wanna Have Something To Do...from their Ramones Mania LP on Sire. The Ramones did NOT play Frys, they played at Centennial Hall on May 5/80 with The Demics opening. Probably the last show i attended at Centennial Hall.

      2. Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels...Rock'n'Roll....the single (and shorter) version from the Rhino Greatest Hits LP. OK, so my buddies and i were HUGE Mitch Ryder fans back in the 70's and we just had to venture into Frys to catch this guy. His Rock'n'Roll was a pretty big hit on the AM radios back then (early 70's) and none of us had been to Frys. It was a legendary venue even back then as people like Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters had both played shows here. We got as dressed up as we could (back then venues had dress codes...ie no jeans, no shorts, no running shoes etc and ya, it sounds archaic by today's standards but that's the way it was back then) meaning cords and dress shirts (just have a look at That 70's Show and see how those characters dress) and it was SOOO amazing to see this guy doing his drop kicks and kicking it out like a REAL rock'n'roll show. Not like those boring cover bands we'd see at The Ridout and Ye Olde City Hall. Ya, Mitch was the real deal and i'm just so glad we went to see this guy that even The Cramps held in high esteem as our intro into Frys.

      3. Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels...Sock It To Me...from the LP of the same name.

      4. Eddie And The Hot Rods...Teenage Depression...from the LP of the same name. Eddie and the Hot Rods have the honour of being the first of the so called punk bands from the UK to come to London Ontario on Nov6/7 1977. I had NO idea who this band was at the time and did not go to see them. Yes, i'm still kicking my ass 34 years later, but i do have a live tape of one night's show as consolation.

      5. Eddie and The Hot Rods...Quit This Town...from the 1977 LP Life On The Line. Fitting tribute to the many who have quit this town over the years...

      6. Teenage Head...Picture My Face...recorded live at The Spoke the fall of 1980 and broadcast over CHRW's airwaves and i stayed home and taped it. Still remember seeing Teenage Head when they first played Frys, it was a wed night in the summer, probably 78 or 79 and one of my buddies got booted out for puking his guts out in the downstairs can of Frys. The one club in London that it was REAL easy to get kicked out of...can't say i've ever had the 'honour' but know many that were.

      7. Teenage Head...You're Tearing Me Apart....Frankie we miss you!

      8. The Bopcats...Lose My Cool...from a 7" and this band had Londoner Cam Marshman (son of Judge GG Marshman) on bass. Cam is still playing to this day and did a few songs at the Uranus/Sci-Phonics reunion show (Press CLub here in London) back in May of this year. Bopcats always put on a great show when they had original guitarist Duane Wayne shredding up the strings and grinning so stupidly at his guitar. Then he was replaced and the band was never as good.

      9. The Bopcats...Bop A Lena...from the same 7" as above and this song always made me go nuts when they played it live! Thanks to Kicks magazine for letting me know about the original by Ronnie Self.

      10. The Bopcats...I Can't Help It...another 7' again with Duane Wayne on the strings.

      11. Shakin' Pyramids...Let's Go...from the Skin 'Em Up LP from 1981...yep, Rena and i went on one of our very first dates to see The Shakin' Pyramids at Frys. Just a coupla years back and we're still together to this day. Rockin' Rob who was the rockabilly DJ at the time on CHRW said he got kicked out of this show because he wouldn't stop dancing on stage with the band! Rob's calmed down a bit and he retired earlier this year.

      12. Shakin' Pyramids...Wash Machine Boogie...from the Reeferbilly Blowout CD.

      13. Shakin' Jake and the Rattlesnake Jakes...Ice Cream Man...from the Domestic Animals cassette of local bands. This was Perry Pucket's rockabilly combo who opened for many of these bands at Fryfoges. Perry is currently in the Pink Cadillac Scat Cats.

      14. Panther Burns....She's The One Whos Got It...from the Behind The Magnolia Curtain LP from 1981. Now this is the REAL deal as far as rockabilly goes. This band got played a lot on the show Young Fast and Scientific here on CHRW, that Al Cole did (he's the originator of What Wave zine). After hearing them on the radio, we HAD to see Panther Burns. Their name was getting tossed around with The Cramps in zines like NY Rocker and Trouser Press so this was a must see!! And Panther Burns did not disappoint...stand up bass, simple drum set up, and Tav Falco looking OH SO COOL!!!! And he still does to this day! This LP has just been re-released and it's one of those LP's that you can play over and over and still hear something new each time! Former Boxtop Alex Chilton guested on guitar under the name L. X. Chilton.

      15. Panther Burns...Train Kept A Rollin'...from a live 7".

      16. Panther Burns...Bertha Lou...from the Blow Your Top EP. Legend Killers recorded this song as part of their first or 2nd demo session. We got to interview Tav Falco a couple of times when they used to play the Silver Dollar in Toronto somewhat regularly. He used to send us a Christmas card each year after that...

      17. Carl Perkins...Her Love Rubbed Off...from the Greatest Hits LP. Carl played in the summer of 82, same night The Forgotten Rebels played at The Cedar Lounge. I went to see the Rebels and was talking to lead singer Mike and he gave me shit for going to see his band when Carl Perkins was just up the street! And i'm still kicking myself to this day for missing Carl as he never came back to London.

      18. Carl Perkins...Boppin' The Blues.

      19. Demics...Talk's Cheap...from the Animals Fight Back cassette of local bands and recorded live in 1979. Once saw The Demics play on the same bill as Our Daughter's Wedding, an electro pop combo at Frys. It was a week night and there weren't many people there.

      20. The Demics...Factories...from the NYC CD.

      21. Blue Peter...Factory Living...from the Test Patterns For Living EP on Ready Records from 1979. Blue Peter came from Toronto and started playing pretty regularly at The Cedar and once they started to really draw, went over to Frys. I still remember seeing them sound check at The Cedar on their first visit here, and the band was playing while singer Paul jumped off the stage and started dancing all over the dance floor while the band was playing and then jumped back on stage to sing! The things we remember.

      22. Blue Peter...Neon Girls...from the Radio Silence LP. Mana once grabbed me at Fry's and said you're coming with me to Toronto tomorrow to see Blue Peter open for The Jam. So she drove us to Toronto and we went to The Edge to see The Boyfriends and Blue Peter play and the next night we saw Blue Peter open for The Jam and the Concert Hall! 2 great shows!!

      23, Nash The Slash...Moon Curse...from the Dreams and Nightmares LP on Cut Throat Records. Saw Nash at Frys and somewhere i have pictures from that show.

      24. Nash The Slash...Dead Man's Curve...from the 1981 LP Children Of The Night. Nash played London fairly regularly as his brother owned The Madrigal Record shop here in town. Last time we saw Nash, was when he played a few songs with DOA at Call The Office. Randy Rampage was back on bass and Nash jumped on stage in full costume (rolls of white tape covering all visible skin, ancient suit, top hat and dark glasses) and he jumped around like a madman while playing with DOA...shoulda had my camera that night.


      That's it for part 1 of The Fryfogle Years. Come on back next week for part 2 where you just might hear The Stranglers, 999, Joe King Carrasco, The Zellots, John Cale, Certain General, DOA and who knows  what else.
      And all of this is to help celebrate CHRW's 30th Birthday.
      And, next week give us a call (519 661 3600) and you can donate to our annual fund raiser! The money is used to purchase new equipment and to keep CHRW onair. Where else are you going to hear music like this???????? Remember, every little bit helps.

      And thanx to The Pack AD for playing London last friday night and then coming onair with me on saturday at 12:30 for an impromptu interview....it was fun and we talked about all of the venues here in London that they've played at! And who knows what else...i had no idea i was doing the interview, but it was fun.

      And thanx to Lou Molinaro of Lose Control on indi 101 at Mohawk College for having me onair this past wednesday to talk about CHRW's birthday and all things What Wave. Thanx Lou, it was a blast!

      And thanx to Beat Magazine (and especially Robert Pegg) for profiling me in the latest, October edition that is available free here in London Ontario.

      Here's the link to listen to the archived show:

      http://chrwradio.com/podcasts/94-9CHRWThu1900.mp3

    • October 14, 2011 6:59 PM CDT
    • Lately I listen to Lantern fronted by Zac Fairbrother (myspace.com/themagiclantern), PC Worship (myspace.com/pcworshipp), and the Super Vacations (myspace.com/meetthevacations) for current garage tunes. .

    • October 14, 2011 6:08 PM CDT
    • I like Ty Segall, he dips into a lot of outside influences like T. Rex, Syd Barret, British Invasion and even a bit of grunge but he's got the melodies and keeps it interesting. I probably don't speak for everyone but there is only so many times I can hear the Nuggets comp reinterpreted without wanting something new.

       

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL1QUp47G9A&feature=related

       

    • October 14, 2011 6:36 PM CDT
    • ...main post updated...

    • October 14, 2011 5:05 PM CDT
    • After spending years looking for something approximating a Mosrite, and trying everything I could find, from $10k vintage Mosrites to crappy Eastwood "Sidejack" rip-offs, my friend Dan Moses (of The Dynotones and The Finksville 5) turned me on to Hallmark. I play in an east coast surf/punk band called Motopipe, and I ordered a '60 custom in sunset sparkle. This guitar has shocked me with its quality. For about $1000 I have a guitar that is honestly easier to play and more reliable than the real thing is and I don't have to worry about damaging a guitar that costs more than my car. I don't have any others yet, but I'll be adding a swept-wing as soon as I can afford one. The custom-wound pickups are HOT! Intonation and setup was excellent right out of the case. The only two complaints I've had are 1) I ordered mine in March and didn't get it until August (my color choice was backordered- they offered me a '59 Custom at the same price as the '60 but I really wanted this color so I waited) and one of the string slots in the trem needed a little filing- it broke 2 high-E strings before I figured it out. Unfortunately one of those strings broke during the first gig I played with it. Played it out again last Friday night and had no issues. I've also moved up to heavier strings, which are my own preference. Over the years of using spring-tension trems (bigsbys mostly but now with this one as well) I've found that a heavier spring and heavier strings means better string life and the guitar is more likely to stay in tune longer. The downside is that you can't get as much out of a bend, but I think it's worth it if you like a little more tension and heavier feel as I do. I could see that if you played with really light strings- 9's or 10's, tuning might become an issue but that is inherent to a trem system like that. The Eastwood felt like a cheap piece of crap just picking it up. This guitar feels as solid and well-made as any of my much more expensive US-made guitars, and Bob Shade at Hallmark is just an email away anytime you need to talk to him. Can't beat that sort of direct access to the man at the top. He stands behind his product. P.S. the case is really rad too!

    • October 14, 2011 2:52 PM CDT
    • What do I think? I love Hallmark guitars. How much does this one cost out on the market?

      This is another example of modern companies reproducing those cool/sought-after/hard-to-find guitars from the way back. But they tend to play a lot better (and/or may be in better shape) than the originals.

      Eastwood is another example of this kind of company.  

      Cool stuff!

    • October 14, 2011 4:58 PM CDT
    • simple answer to the question: Yeah-new trend.

      But don't worry. 

      What is underground will be underground, and what is commercial wil be commercial. 

      underground just becomes more underground hah.  can be a good thing

    • October 14, 2011 3:23 PM CDT
    • Depravos De La Mour ,

      You may or may not have to explain to a majority of these people what "Pitchfork " is. Though , the image of bear shit on a real pitchfork sounds like a punchline to a pretty funny joke. But , friends "Pitchfork" is the big Indie Rock /whatever festival , held in Chicago , each year. Not much to recommend about it. They have thrown the record collectors a bone by hosting Os Mutantes and Mission of Burma , but , it's not enough for me  , personally , to get geeked up about. Even Lollapalooza had The Stooges , Roky Erickson and Patti Smith , one year. But , they had more money and a momentary lapse in crappy taste . But , before that , there was a one - off festival called Intonation , sponsored by Vice Records. It was a very nicely run affair , even the security people were cool , BUT , yes , it was mostly crap , musicwise - White Rappers , Cookie Monster Metal , Robert Pollard , etc. , BUT , they also brought Blue Cheer out to play their first Chicago gig in 35 years , and Roky Erickson , for his first Chicago gig , ever.  Both made the other drek irrelevant (Oh , yeah. It already was.). Pitchfork blew it out of the water, never to return. Personally , I've dealt with Vice Records . I was asked to write a Bio for Pierced Arrows (Admittedly , the only band on the label I can name.) their website , and the people at the label were very cool with me , and very helpful. I had a major computer meltdown , and they helped me through it. But , it's too bad about their festival , got to admit , it was a good time. I don't see a "Garage " festival happening , here ,  except on a small scale , like last year's "Caveman - A - Go - Go". It's always been a limited audience , here ,except in the mid - 60's , when there were "Teen Clubs" and church dances almost everywhere.

      I don't know how some things got to be called "Garage". I saw The Black Lips , they were nothing like Garage Rock . And , I mean , even if you stretch it. But , they have an audience , that's cool. I saw The White Stripes several years before they made it. I thought "Well , if I want to see someone riffing on Msr. Jeffrey Evans , I'll go see The Knoxville Girls , again. At least , they meant it. ". I stood thru about half of it. It was'nt too interesting , even back then.

      When they did make it , under the banner of "Garage" , I said , "HUHH?!!".   

      DEPRAVOS DE LA MOUR said:

      we got pointed here by you because we are trying to sell out but nobody's buying. seriously though (one eyebrow up /slanted smiles) this brings up something that is probably one of the hardest things a band must do. describing yourself. giving yourself a label that will attract people who might otherwise pass you by. this is loathesome to all of us bands as we are unique. that is what we must believe in order to keep going. we worry that maybe strictly speaking we do not belong on gph. we have heroes and inspirations that are firmly in the canon but we do not really sound like them. kopper is there a gph tribunal that passes judgement on who is really gp? we firmly believe in such a thing as good music and bad music. it is not a matter of opinion. it is a fact. facts (despite what the republicans think) are solid and immovable objects. they exist and there is nothing you can do about it. most of those whiny sensitive bear shit bands on pitchfork are BAD MUSIC. there is a terrible pretense to having soul that just makes us fucking angry. having said all that  probably none of it belongs here. just forget it.

      kopper said:

      Hell yeah, it's trendy as fuck right now. And it's really annoying. I keep hearing or reading of "garage" sounds or influences in bands that sound NOTHING like garage rock (or "garage punk," for that matter). I think it's just the state of the music scene right now. Bands like the Hives, White Stripes, and Black Lips (amongst others) really put "garage rock" in the mainstream, and then you had labels like Vice Records jump on the bandwagon with lots of money to promote it with the help of corporations like Scion, and BOOM. It's the "next big thing." Problem is, too many of these bands are just plain BORING, and I bet most of 'em wouldn't know a Sonics or Oblivians tune if it hit 'em on their heads.

      Oh, and by the way, I never could stand the Strokes. As far as I'm concerned they were the "Pearl Jam of Garage Rock," a fabricated band, totally fake, with crappy music that might be OK when compared with the rest of mainstream "rock music," but pales in comparison to most of the real garage rock/punk out there.

    • October 14, 2011 2:16 AM CDT
    • Yep and that's fine with me, the local garagescene here is living loudly, it's good to see people check in and try out that kind of sound. I guess it's also not as approachable to people and kids who expect a Strokes kind of show, but then seeing someone gargle some kind of green stuff wearing a hat off underwear and while moving round the stage in dynamo fashion. Or a surf band "that wouldn't sing for the whole night." Maybe they come back, maybe not.

       

      I remember when King Kahn and the Shrines or Jon and the Night Riders would play in our modest town some ten years ago and the place was half full at best - people would just drop in occasionally when a band was on, a lot of great bands only had a slim crowd to stare at the them.

       

      The shirt thing wasn't about the fashion - that's too easy to adapt to, just get it at a thirft store cause you liked the look or whatever, without any relation to the band or ever having heard their music. It was just a good thing seeing someone fly their Punkrock flag with a bit of taste at a otherwise more uninteresting show.

       

      + That pure Rockabilly ideoligy thing always irked me too, we had a pretty large "Pychobilly" movement here (that being the Meteors and Demented are go idea of psychobilly...) those folks had a hardcore kind of mentality when it came to their music. Like you said, the Sonics were ok to them, possibly because they were kind of big and have their standout place that even ignorant numbskulls will get (sorry for the ranting there). But the fact that there was 60's garage explosion left them cold. Also they dug that clean kind of Rockabilly band that was in for a while in the 90's. Safe to say they had no interest for the 80s Garage scene or the 90's Scumbag Rock'n'roll like New Bomb Turks or the 70's US punk movement.

      It's kind of weird when they love the Sonics but not the Wailers, or Carl Perkins but not Charlie Feathers, you know.

       


      John Battles said:

      You know , There's always been people who've come and gone with this stuff , and they'll skip really good shows because their hearts are'nt in it , or  they're going thru personal changes.... Maybe "Garage" is too broad a term , and , maybe , it's not broad enough. But , I don't think it should be about fashion. We went thru that in the 80's .Though , unless you lived on the East or West Coasts , you could be forgiven for not knowing there was a "Garage Scene" at the time.

      IDON MINE said:

      I know that feeling... just for quicks, I saw someone with a Cute Lepers bag at a garage punk un-related show and felt like I had to jump them out of joy.

      It's weird though... Local monthly clubs like Voodoo Hop or any other "event" put up half way regularly by DJ's draws quite the crowd here. Places are always packed, but I can't seem to see any faces I know - except for the 3 same weirdos I always meet around.



      John Battles said:

      Liking Garage Rock has always been a pretty lonely existence...  'Maybe in Barcelona , you could walk down the street and see a Cynics , Electric Prunes or Los Saicos T-shirt on a regular basis. Not here. Maybe not even in a year's time. That does'nt mean people whose tastes you might disagree with should'nt be allowed into "The Club" if they're interested in this kind of music.

      DEPRAVOS DE LA MOUR said:

      WHAT WAS A JOKE? THAT YOU PLAY SURF MUSIC? we must be too stupid for this discussion. very little here makes any sense. what will everybody do if they decide that garage is trendy? send angry tweets to the twats who would dare to enjoy "our" music for all the wrong reasons? tried very hard not to judge the sheer ridiculousness of the entire "discussion" but this is really about as pointless as it gets. not to mention the use of a word like "trendy". if you only want "pure" listeners then you better shut it down because it will get pretty lonely pretty quick. even if somebody likes this stuff for a short time and then moves on to post post post electro fucko it will still be good for the scene because they will bring someone else here who may become a lasting fan. don't ever make fun of other people for attempting to share your interests.

       

    • October 13, 2011 8:06 PM CDT
    • our show is FRIDAY NIGHT. tomorrow. we go on first. we hit the stage at 9:30. we have songs on our page. a click will get you a blast in the face with BEAT DOWN!

      John Battles said:

      Depravos De La Mour ,

      Non , VOUS est playing musique Saturday at Le Rouge Line Tap , Oui ? Non mois. Not that I would'nt play there , I just don't think they're ready for me. In fact , it's a pretty safe bet they are'nt. I played at The Heartland Cafe , once , in 1989. What a colossal mistake THAT was , but , I think it was my first paying gig in Chicago . The Heartland did'nt pay me . My friend , the late Stu Coy of Oncoming Traffic , did. 

      I think it's more than fair to say we all have different definitions of what is and what is'nt "Garage". That does'nt necessarily mean one party is right and the other is wrong. But , I don't think I'll be able to make it to your show , that night , as I've already made plans to go to the Music Box Massacre Horror Film Fest , and to a Girlie Calendar party , and , if I don't run out of steam , the Dreamerz reunion.

      But , thank you for asking. If you have any songs on your page , I'll check 'em out , and try to see your band another time.

      Chicago , of course , is legendary for it's back history of Garage bands , but , I've lived here almost 25 years , and I could count all the local bands I've seen , that filled the bill , on both hands , and still have a few fingers left over , even if I included The New Colony Six's one - shot All Garage set , last year. I knew a lot more people who were into this stuff back when Wax Trax (The Record store , NOT the label.) ruled , and the clubs were'nt spread so far apart. It's still "Indie Uber Alles" around here , even moreso than in the days when Dreamerz was the only game in Wicker Park , and Billy Corgan was still working in a crappy used record store on Broadway.

    • October 14, 2011 2:25 PM CDT
    • THere would be heaps to talk about on this topic. I love Joss....she's pretty and spunky too.....she is quite known now esp after singing in Mick Jagger's new band!!! Howevre, there are other ladies out there in the 'shadows of musicland' who deserve better coverage.....e.g. The Pandoras, singer in the Persian Claws, etc. Too many to mention actually :)!
      Say Zane.....don't you have something to do with the Fuzztones??? You're username is not new to me.....talkin' 'bout the Tones, do you know Lana Loveland?! She's kick ass 2:)!


      Zane Arillotta said:

      Hi Sleazy! I can see we have the same taste in singers as I'm a huge fan of both Janis Joplin and Grace Slick but unfortunately never saw them live. I especially identified with Grace Slick not just for her voice, but also for her look. She had long dark hair and bangs which is what I've had pretty much most of my life! I think the only KNOWN singer out there right now, or at least known to me in the "mainstream" world of music that has a kick ass rock n roll voice is Josh Stone? What do you think?  I'm sure there's so many more out there that we might hear from but only if they upload their stuff, having to feel like you need to be "signed" to be heard, thankfully, is a thing of the past! Thank gawd that whole "folk singin celtic" phase is gone...at least I think it is....though it sounds pretty, I'd never spend actual money on it...I like my music LOUD!!! Drums of course are favorite!! So, you said you're doing your bit for the female cause....tell us more!!!!!

      Zane

    • October 14, 2011 9:35 AM CDT
    • Hi Zane.  I'm not already young, very shy and clean myself up briefly. :D  Too bad, I wasn't video-taped this night.

      Hmmm, what do you want to know?  Sorry, my knowledge of English and the Jefferson Airplane is pretty low. :(

    • October 14, 2011 1:54 PM CDT
    • This more like shameless self promotion but my budy is making clones of FZ-1, FZ-1A, and mosrite fuzzrite.  He does a pretty dam good job.  Drop me a message if ya interested.

    • October 14, 2011 1:51 PM CDT
    • I want this one day. 

    • October 14, 2011 1:48 PM CDT
    • Would that be a hollowbody teardrop?  At any rate I would go with the solid body ones.

      dying slowly said:

      is there a diferance in tone beetween the phantom and teardrop

      (im 14 and british ,if i could id get a phantom in all white , white mith black pick guard or all black or just a white teardrop :))

       

    • October 14, 2011 1:27 PM CDT
    • Show #345: "Bands & Artists Starting With P, Part 7"

      Every 3 weeks I do a show where I randomly draw a letter from the alphabet. Then I play all bands & artists in my collection from the 50s, 60s and 70s that start with that letter in alphabetical order. This week I drew the letter "P". This is the seventh time I've drawn the letter "P", so I will start from where I left off (which was with Protozoa). So, tune in tonight (Friday at 10:00pm EST) to hear 3 hours of bands and artists that start with "P" like: Proud Flesh, Prudy, Psychic Motion, 2 different Psychotics, Psychotrons, Public Nuisance, Gary Puckett & The Union Gap, The Pudding, Puff, Pugh, Pugsley Munion, The Pulsating Heartbeats, Pulse, 2 different Puppets, Pure Jade Green, Pure Prairie League, The Purge, The Purple Canteen, The Purple Fox and many many more!!!

      ***To stream The Metaphysical Circus live via the web click this link: http://portsmouthcommunityradio.org/listen ... to listen to past shows, view playlists and more, fan the show on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Metap ... 50?sk=wall … or check out my website (to be updated someday): http://eggmanrulez.com/
      Live every Friday night at 10pm to 1am EST on WSCA-LP 106.1 FM, Portsmouth Community Radio!

      Watch my playlist unravel before your eyes LIVE here: http://wscafm.radioactivity.fm/

      Egg

    • October 14, 2011 12:25 PM CDT
    • amen, my brotha.  I also have a show called Kustom City Sounds and it definitely has a garage slant, i don't limit mself to only playing garage music. I agree with you that he just thought up a cool name, and of course with anything that's starts cool, it gets co--opted into something else.  I just say on my show that if it has the spirit of rock and roll then it get's played. maybe he should do something in that vain, but I am sure he has registered the name and blah blah blah.  I just don't see how Springsteen was ever considered cool, just my opinion.  His show has kind of become a place for Bruce shit, but I do listen sometimes.  

       


      joey fuckup said:

      What I'm going to say here is by no means important, nor is it going to part the rock 'n' roll sea, but I personally think Little Steven should have, or should call his show something else other than what it goes by now. I mean "Underground Garage" is a cool sounding name, IF the show was JUST THAT. Don't get me wrong, it's fine that he plays a variety of music, after all, it is his show, he can play whatever he wants or sees fit. But it would be a lot more fitting if he just called it something like "Little Steven's Rock 'N' Roll (whatever)", which may sound lame, but at least it won't come across as advertising itself being an all garage show. For people who aren't familiar with garage music will come to his show and get a distorted idea of what the genre is. And yes, I have listened to his show on the radio (when my shit rock station here carried it), and it was refreshing to hear '60's garage mixed in with newer bands that I liked. But there was others added into the mix that had me scratching my head, as has been mentioned in this discussion. Whatever, he plays what he wants, I just don't think he should advertise it with such a banner of the scene. If you do think about it, people who have no clear idea on what garage is are going to think that bands like U2 and Green Day are relevant to garage rock 'n' roll, when they don't...Bottom line: Don't promote yourself (or show) as something you may not be. I host the "Hayride To Hell" podcast, and even though I play country music, I don't promote it as a country show.

    • October 14, 2011 11:35 AM CDT
    • What I'm going to say here is by no means important, nor is it going to part the rock 'n' roll sea, but I personally think Little Steven should have, or should call his show something else other than what it goes by now. I mean "Underground Garage" is a cool sounding name, IF the show was JUST THAT. Don't get me wrong, it's fine that he plays a variety of music, after all, it is his show, he can play whatever he wants or sees fit. But it would be a lot more fitting if he just called it something like "Little Steven's Rock 'N' Roll (whatever)", which may sound lame, but at least it won't come across as advertising itself being an all garage show. For people who aren't familiar with garage music will come to his show and get a distorted idea of what the genre is. And yes, I have listened to his show on the radio (when my shit rock station here carried it), and it was refreshing to hear '60's garage mixed in with newer bands that I liked. But there was others added into the mix that had me scratching my head, as has been mentioned in this discussion. Whatever, he plays what he wants, I just don't think he should advertise it with such a banner of the scene. If you do think about it, people who have no clear idea on what garage is are going to think that bands like U2 and Green Day are relevant to garage rock 'n' roll, when they don't...Bottom line: Don't promote yourself (or show) as something you may not be. I host the "Hayride To Hell" podcast, and even though I play country music, I don't promote it as a country show.

    • October 14, 2011 8:27 AM CDT
    • I'm not trying to get smart with you; I'm actually saying I agree with you about how long this has taken, and I'd like to know myself.

      kopper said:

      And I'm not asking YOU that question! Why do you feel like you have to answer for the guy?

      MikeL said:
      Well, Kopper, I can't answer that question.  I've been asking it myself.  I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

      kopper said:
      I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, but I just think it's very strange that someone of Little Steven's, um, stature(?), intuition(?), wherewithal(?), organizational skills(?), connections(?) can't figure out a way to launch a friggin' website. It was in "beta" over two years ago, then it disappeared. C'mon, it's not rocket science. Hire someone to build the site or set up your own Ning network. That shit can be done in one afternoon. I know because I've done it myself!

      MikeL said:
      I've had similar thoughts.  You may be right.

      doornail said:
      I have a sneakin' suspicion that he is having trouble as you well know, kopper trying to get everything and everyone on the same page.  Even though a lot of music now is going back to independent labels, they are trying to territorialize everything and not allow certain whoevers to be on other sites where money might be made without them.  Or, at least that is my opinion.  The cake is carved up way to small for this type of endeavor at this point of the record industry, no matter what type of genre you are talking about.  

      MikeL said:

      Kopper, I'm not trying to start a fight with you, but I met Little Steven a couple of weeks ago in NYC when I went up there to see the Cocktail Slippers.  I asked him about Fuzztopia, and he said it will be launched next year.  My guess is that maybe he's going to do this in conjunction with the ten year anniversary of the launch of the Underground Garage, which will be this April.  Yes, I know you think he's lying to me, or he's just saying that in the hope that it will happen, but I still wanted to say this anyway.

       

      Now, I will say this...it sure has taken a ridiculously long time to get this thing up and running.  It reminds me of a documentary about the making of "Heaven's Gate," an epic western that went way over schedule and budget when it was being filmed.  I have no idea why this is the case with fuzztopia, and now I'm starting to think that if fuzztopia ever does get launched, it's going to feel kind of anti-climatic at this point.

       

      BTW, the site has been down for quite some time.  This really isn't news to me.


      kopper said:

      Not sure what happened, but Little Steven's Fuzztopia site has apparently VANISHED!

      www.fuzztopia.com

      I guess they realized they couldn't compete with the Hideout after all, nyuck nyuck nyuck...

    • October 14, 2011 8:06 AM CDT
    • And I'm not asking YOU that question! Why do you feel like you have to answer for the guy?

      MikeL said:

      Well, Kopper, I can't answer that question.  I've been asking it myself.  I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

      kopper said:
      I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, but I just think it's very strange that someone of Little Steven's, um, stature(?), intuition(?), wherewithal(?), organizational skills(?), connections(?) can't figure out a way to launch a friggin' website. It was in "beta" over two years ago, then it disappeared. C'mon, it's not rocket science. Hire someone to build the site or set up your own Ning network. That shit can be done in one afternoon. I know because I've done it myself!

      MikeL said:
      I've had similar thoughts.  You may be right.

      doornail said:
      I have a sneakin' suspicion that he is having trouble as you well know, kopper trying to get everything and everyone on the same page.  Even though a lot of music now is going back to independent labels, they are trying to territorialize everything and not allow certain whoevers to be on other sites where money might be made without them.  Or, at least that is my opinion.  The cake is carved up way to small for this type of endeavor at this point of the record industry, no matter what type of genre you are talking about.  

      MikeL said:

      Kopper, I'm not trying to start a fight with you, but I met Little Steven a couple of weeks ago in NYC when I went up there to see the Cocktail Slippers.  I asked him about Fuzztopia, and he said it will be launched next year.  My guess is that maybe he's going to do this in conjunction with the ten year anniversary of the launch of the Underground Garage, which will be this April.  Yes, I know you think he's lying to me, or he's just saying that in the hope that it will happen, but I still wanted to say this anyway.

       

      Now, I will say this...it sure has taken a ridiculously long time to get this thing up and running.  It reminds me of a documentary about the making of "Heaven's Gate," an epic western that went way over schedule and budget when it was being filmed.  I have no idea why this is the case with fuzztopia, and now I'm starting to think that if fuzztopia ever does get launched, it's going to feel kind of anti-climatic at this point.

       

      BTW, the site has been down for quite some time.  This really isn't news to me.


      kopper said:

      Not sure what happened, but Little Steven's Fuzztopia site has apparently VANISHED!

      www.fuzztopia.com

      I guess they realized they couldn't compete with the Hideout after all, nyuck nyuck nyuck...

    • October 13, 2011 8:46 PM CDT
    • Well, Kopper, I can't answer that question.  I've been asking it myself.  I'm just going to wait and see what happens.

      kopper said:

      I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, but I just think it's very strange that someone of Little Steven's, um, stature(?), intuition(?), wherewithal(?), organizational skills(?), connections(?) can't figure out a way to launch a friggin' website. It was in "beta" over two years ago, then it disappeared. C'mon, it's not rocket science. Hire someone to build the site or set up your own Ning network. That shit can be done in one afternoon. I know because I've done it myself!

      MikeL said:
      I've had similar thoughts.  You may be right.

      doornail said:
      I have a sneakin' suspicion that he is having trouble as you well know, kopper trying to get everything and everyone on the same page.  Even though a lot of music now is going back to independent labels, they are trying to territorialize everything and not allow certain whoevers to be on other sites where money might be made without them.  Or, at least that is my opinion.  The cake is carved up way to small for this type of endeavor at this point of the record industry, no matter what type of genre you are talking about.  

      MikeL said:

      Kopper, I'm not trying to start a fight with you, but I met Little Steven a couple of weeks ago in NYC when I went up there to see the Cocktail Slippers.  I asked him about Fuzztopia, and he said it will be launched next year.  My guess is that maybe he's going to do this in conjunction with the ten year anniversary of the launch of the Underground Garage, which will be this April.  Yes, I know you think he's lying to me, or he's just saying that in the hope that it will happen, but I still wanted to say this anyway.

       

      Now, I will say this...it sure has taken a ridiculously long time to get this thing up and running.  It reminds me of a documentary about the making of "Heaven's Gate," an epic western that went way over schedule and budget when it was being filmed.  I have no idea why this is the case with fuzztopia, and now I'm starting to think that if fuzztopia ever does get launched, it's going to feel kind of anti-climatic at this point.

       

      BTW, the site has been down for quite some time.  This really isn't news to me.


      kopper said:

      Not sure what happened, but Little Steven's Fuzztopia site has apparently VANISHED!

      www.fuzztopia.com

      I guess they realized they couldn't compete with the Hideout after all, nyuck nyuck nyuck...

    • October 13, 2011 10:02 PM CDT
    • I always find something. I just bought the "Crying Demons" (demonic possession) LP on purple vinyl for .99 cents. I also got a stack of late 60s/70s funk and reggae singles that were all pressed in Jamaica, Belize, and the Barbados. They are in stunning shape and got 57 of them for .50 cents each. I checked them on Collectors Frenzy and they are all $20 to $100 records so I'm listening to them and deciding whether to keep or eBay them. Still cool stuff out there, but you gotta get there first. Too many record hounds these days.