I didn't know that factoid about his brother, trippy!
Just pointing out stuff, that 1st LP is phenomenal, even if the Clash don't mean that much to me nowadays.
Heh, try this: Google the cover of Rocket To Russia, and look at the T-shirt DeeDee is wearing. Funny, eh?
I still listen to old ('bout 95 and back) hip-hop, but it's lost any sense of freshness for me. The kids like it, and that's cool, but I'd rather crate-dig for R&B/Rockabilly/Punk unknowns.
Is this man the Screamin' Jay Hawkins of hip-hop? Kool Keith-halfsharkalligator halfman "Is he WEIRD?"
John Battles said:
Joe never tried to disguise the fact that his old man was a Diplomat , which I actually admired. He was'nt trying to do something comparable to Vanilla Ice , saying he was from "Da Streets " , implying he was from Brooklyn , when he was actually from , not even Dallas , but Carrolton , Texas. Or , Farmer's Branch. Strummer spent much of his early life in India , I'm sure , that , alone , gave him a good idea of how fucked up life can be for others. Also , his Brother , who commited suicide , was in The National Front , which , I'm sure , had a lot to do with his political stance , which , a lot of people could'nt get their heads around , because he exercised his right to change his mind , if another idea seemed better. You're right , they SOUNDED like the streets.....So did The Ramones. They were'nt from wealthy backgrounds , and New York was going bankrupt , garbage piled high as the pyramids , and Gerald Ford said "Let 'em Eat Cake". But Hip Hop is "Street " and they were'nt, you know? Whatever. To be fair , The Clash had to be the first White Rock 'n'Roll BAND TO SHOW A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM AND SUPPORT FOR RAP WHEN IT WAS NEW. They had Grandmaster Flash open for them at the Bond's International Casino gigs . But it was something new , then , if you liked it or not. It has'nt been new for 30 years. Some things have stood the test of time , but , the Hip Hop market is built on obsolescence. You're "Old School" or even washed up in 6 months. Even Punk was'nt built on such a quick - kill program.....ON THE OTHER HAND , IF UNDER DURESS , I'D MUCH RATHER LISTEN TO DEE DEE KING THAT B.A.D.
dave said:Joe is cool, always will be. But I recently found out his Dad was a low-level diplomat, and he went to boarding school! The Clash Sound like the street, but were always pretty upper-middle class. Not to take anything away from the music.
John Battles said:BUT , IT WAS EASY FOR STRUMMER , THO' I AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID ,
TO SAY THAT ABOUT THE STATE OF AFFAIRS IN WORKADAY AMERICA , WHEN THE CLASH WERE AT THE PEAK OF THEIR POPULARITY , OVER HERE , and could have sustained themselves very nicely on a 6 months to a year Visa , if they could have obtained one....On the other hand ,between their own tour , The Who tour , The US Fest , plus that huge festival in Jamaica , 82 - 83 was A VERY busy time for The Clash in The Western Hemisphere..... I DOUBT IT MADE THEM THE GAZILLIONAIRES PEOPLE PERCIEVED THEM AS BEING.
I guess he'd already done his fair share of bitching about how things were'nt any better in Britain or on the continent.
dave said:Brilliant. Also true.
John Battles said:"This is America , where a man is free to do what he chooses. But , if he shows any individuality , he's fired. " Also Joe Strummer.
dave said:"If you go and see a rock group, you want to see someone tearing their soul apart at thirty-six bars a second, not listen to some instrumental slush. Since '67, music has been chasing itself up a blind alley with all that shit." -Joe Strummer