Got that straight away! Was just riled up on something, I guess. Sorry for dropping stuff in yer topic... kopper said:

That's my point.

I'm not even talking about black rock 'n' roll groups (sorry, guess I should've clarified that)... of course there were many of them that were around years before the Beatles... No, what I'm talking 'bout are the American white teenage groups (and I mean groups as opposed to solo acts, too) that existed prior to the Beatles in America, hence the examples I gave. Those bands had many of the same influences the Beatles had, but didn't form because of the Beatles. That's my point.

In looking up information about rock bands in America just before the Beatles, I found this tidbit of trivia: the 1963 Grammy for best rock and roll recording went to Bent Fabric for "Alley Cat".

When folks make ignorant claims like that it's either that they are trying to be sensational, and thus cementing their status as "expert", or they only know - and are concerned with - mainstream popular culture.

I stick with my tired & worn-out assertion that most folks don't really care too much about music (except in the socially acceptable, "clique-ish" manner of a college student), and even more don't know very much about the vast wealth of recorded music that is available.

I would think a more educated statement would have gone along the lines of "There were millions of Rock 'N' Roll groups throughout the world until The Beatles watered it down to something that parents could dig. Thus they (The Beatles) killed Rock 'N' Roll! You can thank The Beatles for Steely Dan et al."

*edited to note that I don't know Little Steven, nor have I ever heard his radio show. So it's nothing personal - It can't be; I just think that that quote is odd.

Agree with the above posts, there were definitely pre-Beatles rock bands. I don't know the exact year of origination of the term to signify this kind of music, but "rockin' and rollin'" as a euphemism for sex goes back a lot farther than that. Bill Halley did "Rock This Joint" in '52, and the bigger hit "Rock Around The Clock" in ''54, and there are a ton of other examples.

The Beatles on Ed Sullivan may have changed the landscape of pop music and rock-n-roll, but the yard itself was already there, it was just on a small country road instead of a big highway.

I agree...
Even bands like The Pinetoppers were doin' there thing, and I don't think The Beatles changed much about that.

Though I think it was just Little Steven on some personal DJ rant. Most people were probably changed by that date.

I don't know, that's basically my problem with all that quote-ing from experts, it just cuts out a lot of superb people and many more people forge their opinion after that.
Just like Lennon saying: "Before Elvis there was nothing." Which also maybe right for the mainstream explosion of making R'N'R a Pop phenomenon, but also a very subjective view coming from their own learning and experience with getting into R'N'R thru a certain happening in their life. I love the King, but he was not the sum of all raw music back then.

Its totally right what you said, the Beatles might be the club to blow off the shorthair-wig of many square teenagers and make them rockfans finally. But what about all the guys that came before that and were restricted by bullshit-fucked-up-dork-motherfucker social codes like "RACE", not being able to make it into mainstream media, meaning the black rockers??? You know the names!
I'm not trying to shut down the awesome music of the pre-Garageband bands, not for nothing - but saying the Beatles made it all happen is just more than a bit arrogant . And yeah it's not fair at all.

BLUES guys with an immense personal background that went to transform their styles to R'N'R and beyond, a more well known example being Bo Diddley that had a huge influence in forming the R'N'R spririt. That's basically where origination of the music came from for the most part, I believe. Of course the whole time then being a massive throw around of styles and innovation. And it's always the stars that collect the crops for the media and history but that can't be put down in an Esquire article, no?

Little Steven has this quote on his Facebook page: "February 8, 1964, there was not one single rock 'n' roll band in the country. February 9, the Beatles played The Ed Sullivan Show. February 10, everyone had one....My life began on February 9, 1964." - Little Steven (quoted in Esquire, Dec 2008) What do you think? I think in general he might be right, but I can think of lots of bands that existed prior to '64... the Wailers, the Sonics, the Pyramids, Paul Revere & the Raiders, etc. While the Beatles appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show no doubt gave a huge shot in the arm to rock 'n' roll in the U.S. (and elsewhere) and helped spur on the garage-band BOOM of '65-'67, I just don't think it's fair to give them all the credit. It's stuff like that that kinda annoys me about Little Steven.

July 12th:

VIRUS RADIO:

Seven That Spells - LO I-III
Jack Ross - Mumbles
Willie Wright & His Sparkles - Gibble Gobble
Andre Williams - Sweet Little Pussycat
Edgar Allen & The Po' Boys - Panic Botton
The Gee-Cees - Buzzsaw Twist
Jaguars - Exit 6
Earthworms - Mo' Taters
Charts - For The Birds
Fabulous Raiders - Handclapping Time
Roger & The Gypsies - Pass The Hatchet
Egyptians - Wiped Out
Crescendos - Hawk Walk
Playboys - Whatiz?
Charts - Ooba Gooba
Russ Meyer's Cherry, Harry & Raquel (Cherry Harry And Raquel + South Of The Border)
Sandy Nelson - Hey Joe
Sonny & Cher - The Beat Goes On
Rolling Stones - Paint It Black + Its All Over Now
Rolf Harris - Sun Arise
Lee Hazlewood - The Night Before
Mamas & Papas - California Dreaming
Troggs - Wild Thing
Sooges - TV Eye
MC5 - Ramblin Rose
Misfits - Where Eagles Dare
Goblin - Suspiria
Napalm Death - The Kill

LOWCUT RADIO:

Hunches - Carnival Debris
Mig & Min Ven - Mig & Min Ven
Destruction Unit - In The End
Titmachine - 1989
Times New Viking - RIP Allegory
SSD - Fight Them
Death (detroit) - Keep On Knockin
KGBeasley & The Leather Violence - Texas Leather
Cheveu - A Great Competitor
Digital Leather - He's Minstrel
A-Frames - Experiment
Vivian Girls - Tell The World
Black Randy - Idi Amin
Blade Of The Ripper - Revenge
Ripping Headache - Where Did It Go
Herpes - Hunger
Wrists - MK Ultra
Causa Sui - Portixeddu
Ariel Pink - Trepanated Earth
Gang Green - Sold Out

June 28th:

Crucial Youth - Scarlet M
Las Nurses - So Tired
Mangina - Mdy Mdy Mudshrk
XTC - This Is Pop
Die Rötzz - In Your Head
The Damned - Stretcher Case Baby
Christ On Parade - Teach Your Children Well
Limp Wrist - Fucks With My Head
The Village Idiot - Gimme Some Drugs
De Høje Hæle - Drukmås
Cola Freaks - Piller (live 2008 Boston radioshow)
Grand Frunk - We're An American Band
Fossils - ?
Concentration Summer Camps - You Hate C.S.C.
Catt Butt - Maximo
The Johns - Pussy Talkin
Coach Whips - Ringin the Cowbell
Corrosion Of Conformity - Minds Are Controlled
Rancid Vat - Rulebreakers Rule
Guru Guru - Dagobert Ducks 100th Birthday



July 5th:

Lowcut 19.30-20.30

Salmon - Punk Fatwa
Fireworks - Wicked Woman
Insect Warfare - Disassembler
Skrewdriver - Antisocial
Digital Leather - Video Phase
Mario Migliardi - Matalo! Theme
Limp Wrist - I Love Hardcore Boys, I Love Boys Hardcore
Reiko Ike - Onna Wa Sore O Gaman Dekinai
Bassholes - Knocked Out On My Lawn
Slöa Knivar - Born To Rule
Holocaust - Heavy Metal Mania
Bulemics - Burn Baby Burn
Final Solutions - Vardad Kladsel
Manfred Hüber - Dedicated To Love (Vampyros Lesbos soundtrack)
Swans - Power to Power
Alejandro Jodorowsky - Fuck Machine
Direct Action - Pay Day
Warren Zevon - Poor Poor Pitiful Me
The Freeze - Don't Forget Me Tommy
Moonless - Leave The Light On

Just one - the first and only cover I have done so far. Not nearly as interesting as those above, but the band liked it and I was satisfied. (Most of my work is boring corporate design stuff.)

and once again:

congratulations for the good work dr.kopper!

Now that looks great, waaaay cool Kopper! I like the "gamut." kopper said:

Redirects to this page now, and I updated it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GaragePunk_Podcast_Network

Feel free to edit/add info that you think it could use. Thanks!

mark young said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GaragePunk.com

Get editing, boys!!

Redirects to this page now, and I updated it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GaragePunk_Podcast_Network Feel free to edit/add info that you think it could use. Thanks! mark young said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GaragePunk.com

Get editing, boys!!

IT STINKS LIKE A FUCKIN' a PIECE OF CURROPT CONGRESSMAN!

GR! GRRR! GRRRRRR!!!

"valid references" ... my ass
"external references demonstrating how significant the site is" ... and who decides if the external reference is significant enough? That stinks ...

One day they'll just have to accept this site ... maybe we need to become a garagepunk-cult ... since they seem to like that religious shingaling.

I agree with Kopper! This is the type of question to which All Answers are Incredibly Wrong, simply because none of us has ever faced anything even remotely similar to the situation described. And worrying about "A Record" (ANY RECORD) would be completely unimaginable at the moment about which we're speaking. Thank goodness we don't have to face THIS in reality.

If pressed into it, though, I might could make a choice or two.

If it was the Desert Island thing... Screw the iPod. Throw it into the lagoon. Grab Ginger and Maryanne by the hair and drag them into your hut. There's no electricity here. Your iPod is alive for the next... what? Two Hours? Maybe?

Zombies are different, though. For one thing, they're not Intentionally Destructive of Anything Other Than Human Flesh, so Power Plants are going to continue to operate. Without an active, involved and ALIVE staff, however, a Coal Burning Power Plant won't last more than about 6 hours (maximum). If you're lucky enough to live within the range of a Nuclear Power Plant, you can probably count on it continuing to work for a few months. Regardless of how long it takes for it to die, You will want to stay the hell away from it for as long as, well..., EVER!

I would probably choose The Rolling Stones' "Exiles on Main Street", which sounds horribly lame and "Rolling Stone Magazine Influenced", but is the only record I can think of that contains all of the variety that I would need to survive a Zombie Holocaust. It caught The Glimmer Twins at their most creative and most messed up moment. It Proves that You Can Do Great Art Under the Influence! Well... Okay. Maybe not that YOU can, but that Someone Could! It's raw without trying or pretending. It Rocks, It Grooves (which could come in handy if there are any surviving females or if there aren't and you become horrifically desperate), and It Twangs. It's not perfect, but then... Neither is living in a Secure Structure in which you are surrounded by Flesh Eating, Formerly Living Friends, Neighbors and Family Members.

Lets face it. Zombies are Dead People. Dead People are made of Dead Flesh. Dead Flesh doesn't last forever. I figure I've got to spend a couple of months (at the most) listening to the same record over and over before the flies have chewed my mortal enemies to tiny bits. Then I can go to any record store I want and take anything I want (although, despite my Lifetime Supply of Makers Mark and Pabst Blue Ribbon, I'll probably just go to a Liquor Store instead)!

Does this make me happy? Not really (Although the fact that I now have access to ALL THE LIQUOR IN THE WORLD certainly keeps me from becoming too despondent). Now I am left to spend the remainder of my days wondering when the next __________ (<--- Insert Band Name Here) record is coming out.

I'll try to get the English version :)

Thanks-sounds like a great read. BLACKCAT69 said:

Yes...he discusses the Birds, the Art Woods, Small Faces/ Faces, Keith Moon, his mother-in-law throwing Keith Richards Joints into the swimming pool...great stuff!

Yes...he discusses the Birds, the Art Woods, Small Faces/ Faces, Keith Moon, his mother-in-law throwing Keith Richards Joints into the swimming pool...great stuff!

It's the closest you'll come to sitting at the pub and listenin' to his stories over a pint. I read it a few months ago. The guy has a very funny and keen sense of story telling. It's as good as Mac's book.

id be happy to contribute but im in uk? can do reviews,my fave dj spins,record of the month-email me if you want privately at aroseaman@wsgfl.org.uk

regards
andy

Ok thanx to you Mike
---------> Wipeout, thanx also but i already have these records.

I have the same question about the members of MOAstroman ?. It's pretty hard to find exactly who they are/were .
Except that some members played in Servotron a decade ago.
Thanx for your time.

http://heuredeterreur.mypodcast.com/index.html

I love Rollerland. That's definately on the list along with misc songs about "tough chicks" and JD violence. I believe one of the teams names will be "bee" oriented. That opens up alot of possibilities. I'll go into fuzz/tremelo overdrive!