FLACs would be downloaded though, not streamed, right? So artists would probably get paid per download, like mp3s on iTunes or Amazon. It's a technicality I know, but actual plays aren't counted, just the initial download.

Just saw an article this morning about Google getting into the music streaming game, so it's certainly something big business has deemed lucrative (meaning they get to keep more, and pay out less). Pandora and Spotify have been criticized extensively for their small royalty payouts, even as they rake it in as a company.

I see where you're coming from, though: all a major would have to do is sign an exclusivity deal with one of these services and revamp their royalty system. But it just doesn't seem like a smart financial decision, since they'd have to cut the other revenue streams to do it (like mp3 downloads, CD & LP hardcopies). Maybe at some point in the future, but right now streaming services are just one part of their profit-mix. I suppose Universal could always just go BUY a streaming service, too... (god help us...)

haha your right it is rather evil thinking about the way majors could sort their shit out! 

What i was thinking was for instance say universal started this kind of model and uploaded their back catalog in like say Flacs or another lossless file. Recalled all their digital rights and exclusively started releasing all their records on a site like this. Everybody would pay their monthly fee which kinda eliminates having to go out and get the new pop record because with your membership you essentially already have it as it gets released, and the artist gets their cut with the plays so their happy (maybe). It just seem that more and more people are only getting digital music these days and it seems odd that the majors aren't planning their next moves, just sitting there suing people and complaining.

theres so many details we rambled on about for a web based record company but they would just end up tedious and annoying....like drunk people haha

Audio Gasoline said:

I don't know, that sounds like two completely different business models - I think these pay-to-listen radio stations are happy as middle men in the music chain. Less risk, more reward, and a lot less work than running a record label.

I'm curious, in what ways do you see the majors using the pay-per-play model differently than it is currently being used? These sorts of pro-rated royalty payments are pretty standard fare for the common digital distribution channels. I just wonder what sort of evil musings you've come up with.

I don't know, that sounds like two completely different business models - I think these pay-to-listen radio stations are happy as middle men in the music chain. Less risk, more reward, and a lot less work than running a record label.

I'm curious, in what ways do you see the majors using the pay-per-play model differently than it is currently being used? These sorts of pro-rated royalty payments are pretty standard fare for the common digital distribution channels. I just wonder what sort of evil musings you've come up with.

Was having a couple with my flatmate the other night and we started discussing how these Spotify-type websites pretty much look like they will be the ones to rise up from the decline of traditional major record companies. Obviously nothing's gonna stop the underground releasing whatever it wants, how it wants, but the whole subscription and monthly fees essentially allowing you to "own" whatever gets released on the site whereas also paying the artist based on the number of "plays" tracks receive model looks like it might be the way forward for the majors.

Would be interested to hear your thoughts.

DIY For LiFe!!

Deche Dans Face, The King Brothers, Doo Rag

Demolition Doll Rods 'On' is an album I never tire of hearing. I'd love to see them come back for more sometime.

The Mummies

The Gories

Randy Alvey and The Greenfuz , Jack Starr , MONSIEUR JEFFREY EVANS AND '68 COMEBACK , Gibson Bros. , Hasil Adkins , Dot Vaeth Group , Vomit Pigs , Shaggs ,  Gories , Demolition Dollrods , Bloodshot Bill , Nobunny , King Uszniewicz and his Uszniewicztones, Jesse Hector (Esp. Crushed Butler and his early Rockabilly efforts.), very early Cramps , T- Model Ford , Pat Hare , Hound Dog Taylor , Conversation Piece , J. Henry Timmis IV., First Red Krayola album.

I LOVE the clean!! NZ's finest!!

Korsy said:

I like The Clean, e.g. Aren't they lo-fi-"pioneers" in some fashion?

Either way, they are good.

I like The Clean, e.g. Aren't they lo-fi-"pioneers" in some fashion?

Either way, they are good.

colleen green, first base, peach kelli pop, nobunny, cumstain, daniel Johnston, and your girlfriend;)

So sad Boom Boom doesn't exist any more. Also like the Greg Lowery Budget Rock bands!

Budget rock kings... THE MUMMIES!!

Also, Supercharger, the Trashwomen, The Flying Dutchmen, the Pack, the Penetrators, the Fe Fi Fo Fums...

Speaking of Budget Rock, whatever happened to Boom Boom Party Records of Renton?

http://www.grunnenrocks.nl/label/b/boomboomofrenton.htm

Quite a fan of these genres, would like know who else is and what bands ya like? 

I agree, it's certainly better than anything Iggy's done since 'American Caesar' and is in no way as bad as most of the reviews claimed at the time. I'll gladly give a new album a listen, as soon as Iggy's voice comes in on any rock track it makes it at least 10 times better!

peskypesky said:

Hmmmm. I thought the Weirdness was pretty good.

There's so many....Jerry Lee Lewis made , pretty much , any song his own.

There's so many Dylan covers that , I believe, were better than the originals....

Pretty much any by The Byrds - My Back Pages , Mr. Tambourine , Turn , Turn ,Turn , etc.

Elvis did a total of two Dylan songs. "Don't Think Twice , It's All Right " was just a studio jam that went on for 10 minutes , but really drove the point home......a putdown to the one who put him down. Saying "iT AIN'T NO BIG THING" WHEN IT IS.

it Ain't Me , Babe - Johnny Cash and even The Turtles.

It's aLL over Now , Baby Blue. - Them , Chocolate Watchband , 13TH Floor Elevators.

Isley Bros. - Lay , Lady Lay "Now some people say this cat knows a lot about a lot of things . Me , I like anything that's goy LAY in it !" (Ronnie Isley) 

Yardbirds - Most Likely You'll Go Your Way .

Solomon Burke - Maggie's Farm.

OK , to be fair , I heard Dylan doing "It Takes a Lot To Laugh , It Takes a Train To Cry" , recently. It beats Hell out of Blue Cheer's version.

Well , most people have never heard Bo's original. It seldom turns up on retrospective albums (It IS on his box set.). THE DOLLS ' VERSION IS MORE OVER THE TOP. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BETTER , IN MY OPINION, but , it is the definitive version , the one everyone covers.
 
dave said:

I think the New York Dolls cover of "Pills" the Bo Diddley song is even greater than the original.

Also, anything the Mummies cover is saaaa-MO-kin'. Here's "Come On Up"

Of course , there's Blue Cheer's better - known version , and partly the inspiration for Dead Moon's "Rock like fuck " version.....Johnny Winter and John Mayall did all right versions , too.
 
Audio Gasoline said:

Dead Moon's cover of "Parchman Farm" knocks it out of the park, especially in contrast to Mose Allison's well-known jazzified piano blues original.

I think the New York Dolls cover of "Pills" the Bo Diddley song is even greater than the original.

Also, anything the Mummies cover is saaaa-MO-kin'. Here's "Come On Up"

Dead Moon's cover of "Parchman Farm" knocks it out of the park, especially in contrast to Mose Allison's well-known jazzified piano blues original.

Yup.  We have 14,000 likes and I am not sure how many know that we are a band.  We do regularly get new people out to the show because they like our social media.  These are people that turn into fans that like us because they just liked our pages because we were funny and they ended up liking the music.  If you grow your facebook or twitter fanbase it will turn to band fans.  A small percentage but every little bit helps.

Ted said:

facebook likes can be very misleading...friends of friends will like a band page just because a friend tells them to. So...even if the band blows dick they can have 15,000 likes and only a quarter to half of the likes are legit.

tick tick

Sir Rapley said:

The Facebook "like" system plays too much of a big role in peoples heads to whether or not what their producing is worth while. Its ridiculous to think that any good record company or any half decent booker/promoter would trust a websites polling numbers to their own ears or ability to see talent. You might be dealing with the wrong people

The Trip! Feb 24th show!  Celebrating Black History Month with our favourite artists! 

Listen here: http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20130224-0030-t1361665800.mp3

The setlist: