This has been a pretty interesting read. Some good points of view... a bit of attitiude. I like it.

I've never actually listened to Little Steven's show. Not my cup of tea by the sound of it, judging by some of the names mentioned in this discussion. However, it did peak my interest...

So I went to his site and found "The 50 Coolest Songs Of The Decade", or something like that. Here's some of the artists mentioned : OASIS, PRIMAL SCREAM, AEROSMITH, STEVE EARLE, NEIL YOUNG, THE HIVES, COURTNEY LOVE, PEARL JAM, THE GO-GO's, KELLY OSBOURNE, U2 and GARBAGE.

I bet Bruce Springsteen has a better fucking record collection.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

There's a big difference between being primitive sounding and the lo-fi approach. I call the Sonics primitive in that they recorded with the best equipment of the day but rather crudely and letting all needles go into the red. Tape back then couldn't handle the decibles so it came out sounding like it had some static. But there's better ways to get the primitive approach. You can do vocals through amplifiers without it sounding like a telephone call. Better way to do it is to run through a tube pre-amp while recording and setting it so the needle will run into the red. Yeah, the Wicked Cool releases sound too clean for my tastes but Statics, Flying Dutchmen, Brentwoods, and the last of the Supercharger recordings just sound like no one is trying. Dare I say, my favorite Mummies record is the bootleg. Of their official releases, it's the Shitsville EP. I'm sorry but in many ways, Party at Steve's really sucks and it doesn't compare to any Sonics record. If you don't like the last Woggles record, you should listen to the Zontar Sessions on Estrus for a really good sounding but still dirty record. Maxxed out vocals but not so hideous that you can't understand anything, and the guitars rip. By the way, Woggles still record on tape and on tube equipment.

By the way, when I wrote "The kind of corporate approach I meant was that everything has to be run by him first", I meant "has to meet his approval first", not that he has to run everything OR ELSE.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I'd say start with volume 10 which features Paul Bearer and the Hearsemen on the cover and then volume 1.

"Trailer for Rowland S. Howard - Autoluminescent feature documentary. A co-production between Ghost Pictures and Lindsay Gravina's King Blank Productions."

Thanks! LOTS of good stuff on the Sundazed website.

I think Spacemen 3 were best but Spirtualized were pretty decent as well.

Check out Bunnies from Massachusetts..especially future shock!

You musta missed this on page 1: Reply by Monty Boyce on April 23, 2010 at 4:43pm This might be the wrong forum to post this on, but it sounds to me like you need some Hawkwind in your life. 'Warrior on the Edge of Time' is a fabulous LP, as are 'In Search of Space', 'Doremi Fasol Latido' and 'Space Ritual'. Fuck it, John Rotten was/is a huge Hawkwind fan so they appealed to at least one 'punk'... Richard Chamberland said:

why the hell nobody sadid Hawkwind yet?
It's the best space rock groupe ever. It's like... trippier than lots of psychedelic rock bands and still rocks really hard. The best is the albums with Lemmy on them and Levitation. This is the kind of music that gets you high with nothing and getsyou higher when you're already.

2000 Light Years From Home and Citidal by the Rolling Stones

..Or contemporary stuff like Black Angels,Dead Meadow,Warlocks?
Or the Primal Scream album 'Evil Heat'.
They seem to owe much to My bloody valentine's amniotic sound.

What about some Kraut Rock stuff like Can?

Sun Ra? Syd Barrett-era Pink Floyd?

Laika and the Cosmonauts. Space-surf!

KRLA was the best "oldies" station in LA hands down. They played real 50s and 60s rock n roll/R&B/instros/etc. as their regular playlist. KRTH was OK, more generic (from what I remember). I hardly listened to it. Today KRTH is just laughable. It's such a pile of shit that it should not even exist anymore. Who listens to that shit? As Mike said, KROQ in the 70s and early 80s was really good. I agree with that. It WAS really good. My older brother was a mod/rude boy back in the late 70s/early 80s and he would listen to KROQ and they played lots of different stuff. Hell I even remember the "Freeze Disease" play Johnnny Chingas "Se Me Paro" for chrissakes!! KCBS (93.1FM) was an oldies station for about 1 year and they played pretty good stuff too... THE SURF (1260AM) was an oldies station that started in the early 2000s for about 2 years and THAT was an AMAZING station. They played oldies ala KRLA and didn't venture past 1966 or so. They had specialized shows on the weekends such as "Finger Poppin and Snappin" which was pure R&B and "dance" records. It was soooo great. Then one day it was gone. It's back again as RETRO, but they play more "swing" and "lounge" stuff now. However at nights and on weekends they play just 50s/60s oldies so that's a good time to tune in. Art Laboe is still on the air on 92.3 every night, but his show is so different than how it used to be. Every so often he plays a gem, but it's getting rare. Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Well, I've been in the Seattle area for close to 25 years. Moved here in 1984 (which was a great year to do so). But every so often, I'd look at the websites of some of the stations from Los Angeles and they don't seem to different from anywhere else in the States. Yeah, KRTH (K-Earth 101) did generify. I remember when I lived there that they had a Number 1 records weekend (KRTH had the best weekends) and heard Jose Jimenez' Astronaut skit. Never heard that anywhere else.

As for Real Don Steele, I never heard of him until I heard that Don and the Goodtimes song "I'm Real". But I don't think he was on any oldies station until after I moved away.

Mike said:

I forgot about KRTH, they were good too, the Real Don Steel was on there for a long time wasn't he? Or was that KRLA? But at some later point in time I think they dumbed down their playlist to just the standard generic national charting oldies. Are they still around? Even KLOS and KMET were miles above what is out there now. You had real DJ's still. Jim Ladd is still on KLOS late at night. I'll hear him once in a while at work, and he'll actually suprise me with something good once in a while in between his griping about the state of radio today.

This guy has a lot of KROQ recordings, and even some KMET stuff from the 70's and mostly 80's for download.

http://fromthegarage.blogspot.com/

Well, I've been in the Seattle area for close to 25 years. Moved here in 1984 (which was a great year to do so). But every so often, I'd look at the websites of some of the stations from Los Angeles and they don't seem to different from anywhere else in the States. Yeah, KRTH (K-Earth 101) did generify. I remember when I lived there that they had a Number 1 records weekend (KRTH had the best weekends) and heard Jose Jimenez' Astronaut skit. Never heard that anywhere else. As for Real Don Steele, I never heard of him until I heard that Don and the Goodtimes song "I'm Real". But I don't think he was on any oldies station until after I moved away. Mike said:

I forgot about KRTH, they were good too, the Real Don Steel was on there for a long time wasn't he? Or was that KRLA? But at some later point in time I think they dumbed down their playlist to just the standard generic national charting oldies. Are they still around? Even KLOS and KMET were miles above what is out there now. You had real DJ's still. Jim Ladd is still on KLOS late at night. I'll hear him once in a while at work, and he'll actually suprise me with something good once in a while in between his griping about the state of radio today.

This guy has a lot of KROQ recordings, and even some KMET stuff from the 70's and mostly 80's for download.

http://fromthegarage.blogspot.com/

I forgot about KRTH, they were good too, the Real Don Steel was on there for a long time wasn't he? Or was that KRLA? But at some later point in time I think they dumbed down their playlist to just the standard generic national charting oldies. Are they still around? Even KLOS and KMET were miles above what is out there now. You had real DJ's still. Jim Ladd is still on KLOS late at night. I'll hear him once in a while at work, and he'll actually suprise me with something good once in a while in between his griping about the state of radio today. This guy has a lot of KROQ recordings, and even some KMET stuff from the 70's and mostly 80's for download. http://fromthegarage.blogspot.com/

I have some at evilempirerecords.com and a standing 10% off deal for any hideout members (enter coupon code garagepunkdotcom)

Online:
Get HIp records
Dirty Water records
Soundflat
Screaming Apple
Munster Records
Slovenly Records
Vodoo Rythm
Fuzzoverdose Records
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Where? internet?

Any suggestions for online stores? Mole said:

Intoxica, Stand Out and Minus Zero [if they're still open] in Portobello, London are great for rare 45s, expensive but always good stuff. Sounds That Swing [Camden] good for new stuff. Most new stuff you can probably get cheaper online - not as much fun, I know, but save a few ££$$.

Intoxica, Stand Out and Minus Zero [if they're still open] in Portobello, London are great for rare 45s, expensive but always good stuff. Sounds That Swing [Camden] good for new stuff. Most new stuff you can probably get cheaper online - not as much fun, I know, but save a few ££$$.

An AC30 Combo would be easily enough for a small venue or practice room if you have it up off the ground. Vox actually designed some funky amp stands back in the day for this very reason. Pete said:

Wow, thanks! Super helpful replies everybody! I actually have a 150Watt Marshall Valvestate already (http://www.zzounds.com/item--MSHAVT150H) because I wanted something versatile at the time, but I quickly learned its limitations (there's no denying that it isn't a true valve amp and the effects are entirely useless).

I really like the AC30 because of the tone of the top boost, as well as the blend of the top boost and normal channel. Real spring reverb is nice to have too! The clean channel is nice too and sounds like it would react well with a some fuzzzzz!

From the sound of it, an AC30 combo on top of say, a flight case would be fine for a band in a small venue / practice room?

Wow, thanks! Super helpful replies everybody! I actually have a 150Watt Marshall Valvestate already (http://www.zzounds.com/item--MSHAVT150H) because I wanted something versatile at the time, but I quickly learned its limitations (there's no denying that it isn't a true valve amp and the effects are entirely useless). I really like the AC30 because of the tone of the top boost, as well as the blend of the top boost and normal channel. Real spring reverb is nice to have too! The clean channel is nice too and sounds like it would react well with a some fuzzzzz! From the sound of it, an AC30 combo on top of say, a flight case would be fine for a band in a small venue / practice room?

The AC-30 is a super loud amp. Most people don't think the combo versions have enough power cause they have them on the floor pointing at their ankles, if you elevate them you'll notice that your ears start to hurt. They also pump out the high frequencies so they tend to cut through really well in a band situation. A bit about wattage: Don't let the wattage on the back panel of an amp fool you either. On some amps there are two wattage's shown, one is how powerful the output of the amp is and the other is the power consumption. Don't let the power consumption fool you into thinking how loud your amp will be. I've seen guitar shop retail retards get this one wrong. If the wattage rating is printed near a voltage/hertz rating say: 110V-120V 30Hz-40Hz 180 watts, then it relates to how much power your amp consumes or for a real world example; how hot your amp gets. if you compare an AC-30 to say a solid state 30 watt you will notice a huge difference. This comes down to how the output wattage rating is worked out. Solid state amp wattage is usually worked out via RMS (root mean square), remember that one from school? boring shit really. It's not really the true output wattage at all. If you see a wattage with RMS after it you can do some very rough math to work out loud it will be in real world terms. So say you are looking at buying a 100 watt Marshall Valvestate amp (please don't, they're a bit shit eh) you can work roughly what a quarter of that will be, so 25 and that about how many watts it is. Suddenly the AC-30 looking more powerful and it is. You can use this simple non-scientific method for most solid state amps to find out how loud it will really be. If your looking at getting an AC30 and putting it through a quad then your gonna have a very loud setup. Don't look for the amp to provide any output valve distortion/overdrive cause you won't be able to stand anywhere near it and it will drive any people watching you play out the door! Freddi was right when he mentioned the type of speaker you use, this has a very big impact on the tone your going to get. Another thing to watch is matching the ohm's for the amp and speaker cab. You can do all sorts of expensive damage to you valve amp by miss-matching these. I've seen burnt out output transformers, brunt out tubes and melted circuit boards. As far as I'm aware Mesa-Boogies are the only amps designed for deliberate miss-matching of the ohms.