Nirvana really saved my ass when I was a teenager. In the small town where I come from you had no chance to find cool music, and when I got fed up with metal, the only thing I could get my fingers on was crappy pop music like (yuck!) The Police. Then came grunge with Nirvana and Pearl Jam, and even though I settled for Mudhoney (the only grunge band I still really love and listen to), Nirvana were the first cool guitar band I saw on TV. Because of the hype TV stations broadcasted more guitar music (e.g. Pavement, and even the mighty Melvins), so suddenly there was loads of music to discover from that point on, even in a town where the next cool record store is an hour away by car.

I really like Nevermind, even though I can't listen to it anymore. But I'd definitely say it's a pop record, not a rock record. But what's wrong with pop if it saves a bored and desperate teenager?

And I don't think Cobain got killed. I think he was on drugs and painkillers, had depressions and the wrong friends. Maybe his suicide was a bit too much attitude, but when I heard about it I was sad nevertheless. Poor bastard.

Yeah same here :) I mean grunge music just completely changed my mind on everything, like when I first heard 'Smells like Teen Spirit' .. Just amazing. I think Kurt Cobain really helped me branch out into other genres of music. Haha like yeah not necessarily ones my friends were listening to.   

Alex said:

I've gotta respect Kurt Cobain if only for the fact that grunge was really the first type of music I cared about, and it started my lifelong obsession with music.  That kind of music really encouraged me to seek out tunes other than those which my friends or parents were listening to.

Rock is full of mysteries...that's why I DIG it so much :)

I've gotta respect Kurt Cobain if only for the fact that grunge was really the first type of music I cared about, and it started my lifelong obsession with music.  That kind of music really encouraged me to seek out tunes other than those which my friends or parents were listening to.

Listening to Courtney Love speak incoherent gibberish for 2 minutes makes me want to kill myself. If anything, he was due.

Also, I think In utero was a pretty good album considering their fame when they made it. Anyone else?

Recordgrooves said:

There is too much overproduced music and not enough Trash!

Amen, brother. Amen.

Regarding Nevermind, this might be the best thing to ever come out of that album:

I like them without the pop style drumming of dave grohl or whatever his name is.   I never followed any media crap on Kurt or Love, I could care less.

I threw pennies at Kurt while he was playing an acoustic song during a Mudhoney/Sonic Youth concert, my friends say it was my fault that kurt killed himself.

I ran in to kurt once when I was selling records at flea market in CA back in 91, He browsed through my records and found a bootleg 7" of his and told me that I should let him have it because he made that record, I told him I didn't care who he was & that record sells for two dollars and fifty cents if he wanted it. So he put the record back and walked away.

Seen some great noisy shows from Nirvana back in 89/90 I remember when there use to be only 30 people to show up for their concerts. 

Back around the time when Nevermind was coming out we had a big conference for this corporate company that I used to manage a record shop for  ...so the CEO comes up and talks to me and asks me what the next big thing is going to be, having sampled the record prior to release I told him about how I liked Nirvana but I wasn't digging the new album coming out from Geffen & I thought that all the college kids were going to fall in love with it and it was going to be a #1 album.       I was right, so was Geffen.

All I got to say is that during those times kids were listening to the Back Street Boys and shitty commercial HipHop, Garth Brooks & Micheal Jackson ALWAYS had number one albums and Nirvana was the first band to come around and keep Garth & Micheal from getting #1.   

In a way,  I was sad & happy at the same time. Happy cause at least the kids that were over-exposed to the shitty commercial music could now have a new direction to turn to. Sad because it was the obvious first sign of small record labels that put out good music begin to sell out to the big guy. SubPop Record club was fun times back in the day.

There is too much overproduced music and not enough Trash!

Yeah, and can you imagine what the world would be like if we "took out" all the schmucks in rock'n'roll? It would be very stale indeed. Rock'n'roll ain't about being a nice guy or a saint. Bad music for bad people... made by bad people!

Dom K said:

I wouldn't blame him for being a schmuck to everyone around him, all the fucking hippies at that time around must have been very hard to deal with then. Brian Jones was rad.

enzo said:

I love the dude's contribution to RNR, but having read every Stones article/book/biography I could get my grubby mitts on over the years the guy was a schmuck to everyone around him.  Plus he beat on women. Maybe deserving death is a bit harsh, I'll concede, but the universe has a way of taking out the trash.

Hideout Admin said:

He may have deserved it? How's that?

enzo said:

BRIAN JONES!!!! He may have deserved it...but, hey, Ruby Tuesday.

TeenFink said:

eh? really?

i don't really think much of him. overrated. nirvana's first album was alright i guess, but i could never understand the adoration for them or him.

i think a more important discussion would be "WAS BOBBY FULLER MURDERED?" or what about BRIAN JONES?

kurt cobain. pfft.

This is a busy time of year for me, but I managed to slap together an hour's worth of slap-happy rock 'n' roll for you, the listener. From New Mexico come bands like The Scrams and Kilimanjaro Yak Attack. Some of the bands I've gotten to know from here in the Hideout are here like Lovestruck, The Manxx and J.J. & The Real Jerks. Plus we take a trip into Indian Country with a segment featuring goofy novelty songs from the '50s and elsewhere, as well as some rocking tunes from Native American artists. You'll have to slap yourself to realize you're not dreaming.

Play it here:

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Here's the playlist:
(Background Music: Slap It by Ronnie & His Twangy Little Fellow)
Bitch Slap Attack by Lovestuck
Chimp Necropsy by The Scrams
The Masks by Death
Omega Todd by Kilimanjaro Yak Attack
Cornfed Dames by The Cramps

(Background Music: Taos Pueblo by Impala)
Red Man by Slidin' Clyde Roulette
Indian Rock by The Musical Linn Twins
Big Chief Little Puss by The Olympics
Boppin' Wigwam Willie by Ray Scott
The Radical by Russell Means
Yata Hei by Keely Smith
Millennium Car by Keith Secola & His Wild Band of Indians

(Background Music: Geronimo by Link Wray)
Mustangs and Camaros by Stargunn
Where the Rio de Rosa Flows by '68 Comeback
Broke Yr Spell by The Manxx
Chicken Shack by Hellwood
Seersucker Suit by J.J. & The Real Jerks
(Background Music: Slappin' Rods and Leaky Oil by The Savoys)

THE STOOGES

DESTROY ALL MONSTERS

SEX PISTOLS

YARD TRAUMA

STIFF LITTLE FINGERS

THE ANXIETIES

RADIO BIRDMAN

THE VALENTINES (Italy)

permannet drip

the damned

In no particular order -

Stiff Little Fingers

Clash

Vibrators

Buzzcocks

Stranglers

Dead Kennedys

Adverts

Ramones

Damned

The Dickies

This of course is only my definition of "punk", and as some of you may have spotted I'm not one for labels. Good music is good music. I think this is a balanced-ish mix of US and UK as well, but as with all of these discussions my age and country of origin will heavily sway my choices. Any guesses??

Love Is All Around - Troggs, Always See Your Face - Love, In My Life - Beatles, Thank You - The Invasion, Barracuda - The Standells, I Want You Around - Ramones, I Love You - Lou Reed, I Love You - Heartbreakers, Love Song - Damned, and if it works out line up side 2 of Can's Monster Movie and side 1 of MC5's Kick Out the Jams and get after it.

Welcome Joey !

Hysterical !

good one

hahahaha!

I need to get in a band, bands are a lot of work so you need to find the right guys. I'm willing to try different ways as long as they dont cost money. Going out to bars for a week looking for people wastes to much $. I find its tough to find people who share common interest in music and ideas for this.

Agreed.

Hideout Admin said:

I had a great amp at one time... back when I was briefly learning guitar. An Ampeg Reverberocket. I loved it... but since I never got serious about playing, I decided to sell it. But that thing had GREAT sound.

And it looked like this:

Anybody like the Traynor YGM-3. I find them hard to like. Piercing treble at low volumes and flubby bass at mid to high volumes. Should I swap the speaker? Anybody know what speakers it likes? Or should I just trade it for a Fender Deluxe-amp?

I thought this amp should have sounded better than it does. I can get good sounds out of it but it takes to much tweaking the dials.

Whats the best 1x12 speaker to use with the Orange Tiny Terror. The Orange 1x12 w/celestion 30 sounded like mud. Ive tried one with a 4x12 loaded with greenbacks, but I'd like to use one with a 1x12 cab as a practice amp, for 70s punk to get old marshall sounds from a small package. I don't want any heavy metal distortion just overdriven 70s marshall sounds. Anyone have experience with this?

ASH BASS, Nuff said.

Very prolific man.

he is an absolutely freak in the best meaning!

Picked up a DVD on clearance from Amazon a while back for about 5bucks, 80 minutes of Milkshakes & Thee Headcoats.

"The Genius Of Billy Childish" 2004 Cherry Red Records

Link

Amazing the stuff you find on Amazon not on the IMDb

Looks gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooddd:)