I was one of the people talking about Vice, I don't know if you were talking about me but this post does bring up a good point about Black Lips- people seem to sometimes think that whatever the context of the conversation around them on GPH boards, any mention of that band is putting them down, but I don't necessarily think that is always the case- people post both positive, negative and mixed views about all sorts of bands- that is one of the things I like about the forums is that people always bring a new perspective. As far as what I was discussing in my post, I was looking at Vice from the aspect of a taste-making and how that avenue helped to widen the audience that BL had and bring them some success. My personal view on the band though is that they are innovators and making some great music. One of the sides of this discussion that I think critics neglect is the actual content of the music and the issues that it raises. People always focus on image and the idea of shock value which I think is basically outdated at this point anyway (personal opinion) :)
Cheers
Kyle Shantz said:
I loved the Strokes, but then they were my intro to "garage" in 2001. I wouldn't have gone to see The Sonics two years ago in Toronto if it werent for them. "Is This It" was a really good album (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOypSnKFHrE), I wont defend the other three.
Ty Segal is amazing too in terms of new garage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK64JbKdNPM) and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj7oo_iLp9Q).
Someone mentioned VICE, which I assume is hate for The Black Lips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrNSjItTfes).
Also good on the scene are Thee Oh Sees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEtI5EZ4em4&feature=related).
I hope I don't get banned for this post, there seems to be a lot of hate for new stuff...