Dearest Mr. Mole you are indeed correct, Hamburg Beatles were karaoke but are not all garage bands karaoke?  That is my point I guess.  When they played 3 chords they were leather clad greaser punks singing black music for the children of Nazi supporters.  A weird time I am sure, trying to sleep with rats and bedbugs in urine stinking bar bunk beds while you are speeding on Third Reich crystal meth while Pete Best is humping some dodgy fraulein from Dusseldorf while Lennon is harping on about existentialism while McCartney is pruning himself going is this "whoooooooooohhh cuter than this whhhooooo?" while Sutcliff is practicing his German dialect sternly, "ich leiber dict, is that right, John?"  Man, I wish this is what they sang about ...but nah "I wanna hold your friggin hand"  No wonder "Besty" left in disgust to leave his spunk stained drum seat for the more mentally malleable comedian Ringo.  Best was a Teddy Boy rebel rocker who refused the moppy hair chops, the matching Burton suits, the dilution of the rock with the pop.  Besty is the true punk in the band the hero, the zero, the Nero.... the outcast of the kings of pop, the saviours of rock n' roll.  

We need to try to respect other people's religious beliefs. That said , in my Bible , Elvis is God , and Chuck is God , and Bo is God , Little Richard , Jerry Lee Lewis , Eddie Cochran , Gene Vincent , Link Wray...Gods....Even John Lennon once knealt down and kissed Jerry Lee's feet. Jerry Lee said "Boy , you ruined a brand new shoe shine !".....The Beatles and The Stones , were they Isaac and Abraham , or a couple of golden calves? Consult Revelatons (Where you'll find nothing revelatory on the subject.).

The Beatles were my first obsession, and I played my mom's Sgt. Pepper album endlessly as a 9 year old.  Their pop masterpieces carved neural pathways into my young brain, shaping it, and preparing it for more the more "challenging" music I would absorb later on, developing my taste for all things counterculture.  That being said, some of their songs have not aged well and seem lightweight and safe when compared with their contemporaries.  They are not my favorite band (The Velvet Underground), but I will always defend them as the greatest and most important rock band of all time.

Surely the Hamburg Beatles were a karaoke machine, just churning out endless covers for drunken audiences. I don't think the reason people still hold The Beatles in such high regard is ANYTHING to do with buying into the propaganda that you mention, it's to do with the quality of their original material and (whether you like it or agree or not) the fact that they changed EVERYTHING in a pop culture context. Just ask Roger McGuinn or Brian Wilson!! 

hicksville hogwash said:

Now if we kept the Hamburg Beatles I would be happy, what we got was a big money maker for the recording business and they played the game to a tee.  They were for the greater part performing monkeys,

"Ohhhh Ringow gaw doo us a turn ya scally"

"Pauly doo that chimp noyse again ....awww yer face it lawks so cute" 

Sure they turned in some good sides but science says if you get monkeys in a room with a computer one will produce a work of Shakespeare in time.  That is what happened with the Beatles, press record and once in a while something decent would be caught on tape, mostly there was shit throwing and banana skin slipping though.  

I blame the kids mostly for falling for it.  Their parents had WWII to contend with and Glenn Miller music still resonating behind the bombs of the invasion, Glenn said more without lyrics than the Beatles ever did on a cup of tea with the Maharajah. Glenn died for his art and country stopping Nazi stormtroopers and V2 missiles single handedly with his trombone.  The Beatles went to Germany and acted the fool ripping off American music.

The Beatles to me innovated nothing that was not already going on around the world, they were just an early musical karaoke machine for the kids just sensible enough to rip off, R n' R, R n' B, Folk Soul, Psychedelia... haha.... blah blah... and write their own lyrics to the stolen tunes.

I still have not made it through a whole Beatles record in all my years.  Without skipping a track or seven.  Believe me I tried to like the boys because the bands I love loved them.  But again the bands I loved were stupid enough to buy the music biz and press' propaganda....  

The capitalists hogwash.  Earn the industry money monkey....  OOOOHHHHhhhhhhh (shakes floppy hair and winks at camera cutely, sound like Justin Beiber???  )

....People dislike , or can take or leave , The Beatles , for various reasons. Maybe some are'nt entirely justifiable , fair enough.  Myself , I remember when The Beatles were still in rotation on AM radio , because they were current. I was'nt there for the whole phenomenon (I was , physically , there.) . I was about 4 or 5 when "Yellow Submarine" came out , and saw it , then , and I even remember where I was when I learned of their breakup (Just as well as I remember where I was when Elvis died.).....That said , like a lot of people , my big Beatle phase was from early to late teens. I really got deluged with them . That's just me. I also got deluged with The Stones and The Who , but , I went back. It's a lot easier to know the less - obvious stuff in The Beatles' back catalogue , today , than The Stones . There's a reason a Stones tribute band can , generally , only pick from 20 songs , while , nearly anything by The Beatles , short of "You Know My Name" and a few others , would still be politically correct , today.....It sure is'nt because The Stones , too , don't have about a zillion lesser - known  gems . But , when I was really geeked up about The Beatles , it was a loner trip. Ditto for The Stones.  It's easy to think everyone was into blatantly obvious Mainstream Rock in The Late 70's - Early 80's....They were , but , it was Boston , Journey , Foreigner , Eagles.....  It's easy to knock The Beatles because they're too Pop ("I'm Down" is Pop?!), but , the Hipster types probably do so without at least having a sensible backing argument.  I just had to get off the Magical Mystery Tour Bus back in The 80's. But , The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band.....That's another story , entirely.

It's cool that you understand what we are up against, Bry. As far as naked bodies from famous paintings, etc --- you should have read our moderator discussions lately about "Cartoon Titties" I kid you not! They are not allowed (*facepalm).

"Ex-GRGPNK Hideout members 'SLIT PLASTERS' " ---

Maybe this isn't the right place to discuss this but I received the message they wrote Kopper and I totally understand their position but unfortunately they totally DO NOT understand ours! I know most of you don't really know what goes on in the background here on the Hideout so it makes sense all of you who know the story would think we are assholes for censoring content here. To make a very long story short, we had a rogue/disgruntled member here on the Hideout threaten to take the site down due to 'pornographic' content. We are not the only site that has had a problem with this due to the new Section 2703 of title 18 U.S. senate bill. We took this very seriously and regrettably (believe me, all moderators and Kopper alike) had to instate some draconian guidelines as far as video and photo content just to be safe. Regrettably, bands like the Slit Plasters really got the short end of the stick and we think that sucks but we had no choice in the matter. I hope this clears some things up. 

Actually , Feathers was saying "Darkness" , tho' it sounds like "Darkies". Not saying he had no Redneck tendencies , but , as it happens , I was the last person to interview him , and he did not strike me as a racist , at all. Of course , another local writer (Who surely got the Revenant CD set for free , when all I got from Revenant was the offer of passes to see Insurgent Country bores....)  .   The guy took every given opportunity to shit all over Feathers , who , by then , was hanging out with Elvis and Carl , discussing the pranks they'd pull when they saw Sam Phillips again.

Had'nt heard "Beat Her With a Rake" in a long time....Then there's "Sit on My Face , Stevie Nicks" , by The Rotters , who got in more trouble because they actually used a snippet of "Rhiannon" w/o PERMISSION , Than for the actual song content.
 
Mike said:

Here's a few:

Charlie Feather's line in Jugle Fever where it goes "Darkies creeping through the trees"

Jake Porter with the "Duchess" on vocals - "My Monkey" on Combo records from the early 50's

Forgotten Rebels - "Bomb The Boats and Feed The Fish"

Rozelle Gayle - "House of Blue Lights" a previously unreleased Combo Records recording from the early 50's that is on the "Straight To Watts" CD on Ace Records (I've attached it)

Louis Jordan - "Gal You Need A Whippin'"

The Weasel - "Beat Her With A Rake"

And the equally incorrect B-side

"I am The Commander"

Thee Eviltones "In the Shadow of the Beast" (Dead by Mono)

Thee Eviltones, Nottingham UK (Dead by Mono)

Dead by Mono Records

Bachelor

No love for Dischord?

C'mon guys, I thought you were cool.

Sorry , Freddie Krc's label is actually called Steady Boy. Pick up on it.

Yep Rock is still doing some great stuff , and have a good variety of artists in their stable. Even tho' they would'nt spot me any promos for review....Grumble , grumble.

Big Beat in The UK , still going strong (I trust.). Rave - Up in Italy is doing too many unreleased Punk gems to keep up with.

Is Ryan Richardson still doing Existential Vacuum ? More way cool Punk Junk , not the kind that stunk. Look up his Rock Scene magazine website !

Cicadelic is actually improving from their 80's "Heyday"....If you see the 1972 Shadows of Knight Live CD , it's a keeper for fans of stone Punk/Metal Bubblegum ala Brownsville Station.
 John Battles said:

Freddie Steady (Run by Freddie Krc , former Roky Erickson/Explosives Drummer.)

Krc puts out releases on The EXPLOSIVES , HIS OWN SOLO MATERIAL , AND THEY ALSO HAVE A GREAT LIKE ROKY W/tHE eXPLOSIVES CD - which Norton picked up th vinyl option.

Roots music - Country , Rockabilly , N'orlins , etc. Plus , he released the first full length US release on The Downliners Sect , recently.

SAUSTEX - ROOTS , PUNK , WHAT THE FUCK.

Get Hip , Sundazed , Bear Family.....

All of the above and more currently,

• Trouble in Mind
• HoZac
• Dirtnap
• Slovenly
• Hardly Art
• Goner
• 1234 Go!
• Douchemaster
• Tic Tac Totally
• Castle Face

Freddie Steady (Run by Freddie Krc , former Roky Erickson/Explosives Drummer.)

Krc puts out releases on The EXPLOSIVES , HIS OWN SOLO MATERIAL , AND THEY ALSO HAVE A GREAT LIKE ROKY W/tHE eXPLOSIVES CD - which Norton picked up th vinyl option.

Roots music - Country , Rockabilly , N'orlins , etc. Plus , he released the first full length US release on The Downliners Sect , recently.

SAUSTEX - ROOTS , PUNK , WHAT THE FUCK.

Get Hip , Sundazed , Bear Family.....

Dito on this & all the others too of course. But those three probably defined a lot for me.

ixnayray said:

• Dionysus
• In The Red
• Sympathy For The Record Industry

Alive (with natural sound)

• Estrus
• Ghost Highway
• Big Neck
• Musick
• Norton

State Records

13 O'Clock Records

They're fantastic live! They even make it out to Arcata every summer - probably because we all dance our asses off!

Too bad the vast majority of music out of my town is Reggae. The Rock'nRoll/Garage/Punk scene kind of starts and ends in my cul-de-sac.

Doodlemouse said:

I wanna see them, but they seem to only tour Europe/UK lately.

kopper said:

Also, from right here in River City, we got Pokey LaFarge & the South City Three, who've been makin' some pretty major waves lately...

You know what , my friend? I don't even live in Pittsbugh , but , besides The Fleshtones , The Cynics are still the band I look forward to seeing.
 
MikeL said:

Most of my favorite local bands are history, so there isn't much happening around here.  The only thing I have to look forward to anymore is the occasional Cynics' gig.

Looks like its fun to be where you are.... If you like Ghost Bikini you might also enjoy Tiger! Tiger! whose front woman also keeps the beat in the Subsonics:

Tim said:

In my area Kent, England.....

hullo dere.
i'm a 21 year old guy from the coachella valley in california.
used to be in a psychobilly band (Los Mumblers) & a punk band (Big Lizard), both now defunct. i'm attending college at the moment, majoring in mortuary science. i'm vegetarian. i drink socially and dance like Haze sounds.
i want to start a new band. a trashy group, you know what i'm saying. but i can't find a soul in this blasted desert. anyway, i like music, books & movies. specifics be damned.
i hope to become a part of this community.

my facebook - http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1794978032

cheers and steers!

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